Classic Insurance with an engine coversion
Classic Insurance with an engine coversion
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MJK 24

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5,676 posts

265 months

Sunday 16th March 2014
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Hello,

Can anyone recommend any brokers who will cover a car that's has an engine change? It's not a huge V8. Just a 1.6 diesel that's 11bhp down on the petrol it replaced.

Thanks in advance for any pointers!

nta16

7,898 posts

263 months

Sunday 16th March 2014
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try Peter James Insurance

itiejim

1,822 posts

234 months

Sunday 16th March 2014
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Classic Line do my k-series engined Spitfire (with type 9 box and subaru diff). Can't remember the cost, but it's not much over £100, total bargain.

MJK 24

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5,676 posts

265 months

Sunday 16th March 2014
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Thanks guys. I'll get on the phone in the morning!

wibble cb

4,143 posts

236 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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itiejim said:
Classic Line do my k-series engined Spitfire (with type 9 box and subaru diff). Can't remember the cost, but it's not much over £100, total bargain.
That sounds unusual, can you post a description of this ?

warp9

1,632 posts

226 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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Sounds a pretty standard mod, try Heritage Classic Car Insurance who can do this sort of thing. www.heritage-quote.co.uk

a8hex

5,832 posts

252 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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warp9 said:
Sounds a pretty standard mod, try Heritage Classic Car Insurance who can do this sort of thing. www.heritage-quote.co.uk
Heritage were fine (ok charged for) with me putting a 4.2 into my XK150.

rotarymazda

538 posts

194 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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MJK 24 said:
Hello,

Can anyone recommend any brokers who will cover a car that's has an engine change? It's not a huge V8. Just a 1.6 diesel that's 11bhp down on the petrol it replaced.

Thanks in advance for any pointers!
Competition Car Insurance did mine.

Markerstudy is another.

itiejim

1,822 posts

234 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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wibble cb said:
That sounds unusual, can you post a description of this ?
Sure. It's a 1967 Mk.3 which I've owned since '93 and run in a variety of guises.

It's fitted with an 1800cc VVT K series engine, mounted about 6" further back than the original lump and mated to an XR4i type 9 'box.

The rear end conversion effectively comprises a steel box which locates the Subaru diff and also acts as a mounting point for top wishbones. This is located in the chassis by the standard mounting points. I've used the rotoflex bottom wishbones (albeit Canley Classics alloy versions) with rotoflex uprights machined to take MGF wheel bearings and hubs. Drive shafts are bespoke to fit MGF CVs on the outside and Subaru CVs on the inners.
Having dispensed with the transverse leaf spring it runs on coil overs mounted in the normal damper location.

To be fair, I was never unhappy with the handling of the swing spring rear end. The real thrust for change was to enable me to fit something which would eliminate the weak drive shafts - failure of which is catastrophic as it acts as a lower link. Also it provides me with a bullet proof, cheap LSD. Better control of camber change and a more reasonable roll centre is just an additional benefit! Any actual improvement is as yet tbc as this set up is currently on a scrap chassis I've been using to make sure everything works whilst I await delivery of my coil overs.

With fibreglass front end, doors and boot lid it's a good deal lighter than a standard car and goes well.

wibble cb

4,143 posts

236 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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itiejim said:
wibble cb said:
That sounds unusual, can you post a description of this ?
Sure. It's a 1967 Mk.3 which I've owned since '93 and run in a variety of guises.

It's fitted with an 1800cc VVT K series engine, mounted about 6" further back than the original lump and mated to an XR4i type 9 'box.

The rear end conversion effectively comprises a steel box which locates the Subaru diff and also acts as a mounting point for top wishbones. This is located in the chassis by the standard mounting points. I've used the rotoflex bottom wishbones (albeit Canley Classics alloy versions) with rotoflex uprights machined to take MGF wheel bearings and hubs. Drive shafts are bespoke to fit MGF CVs on the outside and Subaru CVs on the inners.
Having dispensed with the transverse leaf spring it runs on coil overs mounted in the normal damper location.

To be fair, I was never unhappy with the handling of the swing spring rear end. The real thrust for change was to enable me to fit something which would eliminate the weak drive shafts - failure of which is catastrophic as it acts as a lower link. Also it provides me with a bullet proof, cheap LSD. Better control of camber change and a more reasonable roll centre is just an additional benefit! Any actual improvement is as yet tbc as this set up is currently on a scrap chassis I've been using to make sure everything works whilst I await delivery of my coil overs.

With fibreglass front end, doors and boot lid it's a good deal lighter than a standard car and goes well.
Very cool, an unusual conversion, but clearly one that works!

Thanks for the explanation

MJK 24

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5,676 posts

265 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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Thanks everyone! I've got a few leads to follow up now smile

MJK 24

Original Poster:

5,676 posts

265 months

Friday 28th March 2014
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Just to update this thread...

I have insured my Scirocco declaring its diesel engine, uprated springs and anti roll bars via Richard Egger Insurance Services in Nottingham. They already insure my Elise and are very straightforward to deal with.

The premium is £400 for 5,000 miles including commuting. I can raise this to 7,500 miles if needed for an additional £90.

I'm pleased it was all so straightforward in the end. I was dreading arranging cover for a car with an engine swap but it is considered to be no big deal as the engine dates from the same era as the car. For what it worth,
I think it loaded the premium by £100.

Thanks everyone for your advice smile

nta16

7,898 posts

263 months

Friday 28th March 2014
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well done, thanks for reporting back