911 Newbie seeks guidance!

911 Newbie seeks guidance!

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wadsy

Original Poster:

369 posts

256 months

Wednesday 19th March 2014
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After years of saving/yearning!...I picked up my first 911 last Saturday.

It's a 1998 C2 manual.

I enjoyed a nice drive down the A4 to Wiltshire Saturday afternoon, but since then I've done a couple of local runs and I don't appear to be gelling much with it as much as I did my Integrale a few years back. To be honest I'm a bit disilusioned frown

Where-as undoubtably it's a good quality, solid car with lots of elements forming a nice synergy!...smooth power delivery, steering feedback, nice gearchange, brake-feel etc. My issues are:

The ride is a bit too firm. It's great when you can push on on fast, sweeping A roads, but elsewhere is a bit of a pain!

The steering is light and a bit 'floaty' and the front end doesn't feel that planted/secure - tramlining?

Power is adequate for our roads, but I would have liked a bit more 'poke' for overtaking, but it will 'do' wink

Anyway, please help/guide me as to how to fall in love with a car I know I should!


Cheers

Orangecurry

7,428 posts

206 months

Wednesday 19th March 2014
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Congratulations - you face a sliding scale of...

1) get a GEO done by someone who really knows how to set-up a 996

....all the way through to....

11) new shocks, springs, top mounts, bushing..... followed by a GEO by someone who really knows....

Orangecurry

7,428 posts

206 months

Wednesday 19th March 2014
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wadsy said:
...The steering is light and a bit 'floaty' and the front end doesn't feel that planted/secure...
They all do that Sir.

You will learn to exploit the handling characteristics, and steer as much with the engine as the steering wheel.

Keep the petrol tank full.

Magic919

14,126 posts

201 months

Wednesday 19th March 2014
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Keep driving it. You'll probably grow to like it. Maybe you'll get fed up and sell it.

LordHaveMurci

12,043 posts

169 months

Wednesday 19th March 2014
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Had mine for 4.5 years, still not fully used to it, it's one of the things I love about it. Only started to gel with it after a spirited drive sunny sunday morning, started making sense then!

6C4GTS

5,185 posts

178 months

Wednesday 19th March 2014
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Keep going.
Never met anyone gets the 911 thing straight away.

thegoose

8,075 posts

210 months

Wednesday 19th March 2014
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There's a BIG difference between a tired 16 year old 996 and a tight properly sorted one. If you haven't already done so, get it inspected by someone who knows them well. I have a well sorted one, with upgraded suspension and it's bloody great. I don't use it every day but did today, even though it wasn't a spirited drive I still really enjoyed giving it a run in the sunshine driving

Standard wheels are 17", most were upgraded when new to 18", any bigger it wasn't designed for. The bigger the wheel, the worse the ride quality. If it's on 18's stick with them for now, but consider swapping to 17's (I have a genuine set that I may sell - I used them last year for my winter tyres, didn't swap for this winter).

wadsy

Original Poster:

369 posts

256 months

Wednesday 19th March 2014
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thegoose said:
There's a BIG difference between a tired 16 year old 996 and a tight properly sorted one. If you haven't already done so, get it inspected by someone who knows them well. I have a well sorted one, with upgraded suspension and it's bloody great. I don't use it every day but did today, even though it wasn't a spirited drive I still really enjoyed giving it a run in the sunshine driving

Standard wheels are 17", most were upgraded when new to 18", any bigger it wasn't designed for. The bigger the wheel, the worse the ride quality. If it's on 18's stick with them for now, but consider swapping to 17's (I have a genuine set that I may sell - I used them last year for my winter tyres, didn't swap for this winter).
I believe it's pretty tight, far from tired. Only 70k on it and bought from a well respected specialist.

It is on 18" wheels though. I'm thinking maybe 17's might help.

IknowJoseph

542 posts

140 months

Wednesday 19th March 2014
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wadsy said:
I believe it's pretty tight, far from tired. Only 70k on it and bought from a well respected specialist.
My front coffin arms got replaced just after 70k as they were squeaking; made a massive difference to the feel of the front. Just saying that these things can wear out in 70,000 miles smile

stubbsy996

782 posts

213 months

Wednesday 19th March 2014
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wadsy said:
I believe it's pretty tight, far from tired. Only 70k on it and bought from a well respected specialist.

It is on 18" wheels though. I'm thinking maybe 17's might help.
Whilst 17" wheels might help with the ride, most seem to agree that cosmetically 18" look a lot better, sportier and fill the wheel arches better!

LightningMat

206 posts

199 months

Thursday 20th March 2014
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Sounds like it's handling pretty much like a 996 there!

I have had mine for nearly 7 years now and still get some of these feelings of the car handling 'somewhat differently' to other cars!...

However, take it on a spirited drive and it all clicks into place... These cars were clearly not made for just tootling around town in!

andy102

130 posts

169 months

Friday 21st March 2014
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As someone said, get it looked over at a specialist. Your be amazed at what difference a few replaced bushes can make.
The 911 is not the easiest car to drive fast, but for me thats the challenge. The Integrale on the other hand is a car you can drive fast from day one with little knowledge of vehicle dynamics.

I remember reading a Vic Elford book soon after buying my first 911, then going out driving and starting to get it.

rlw

3,334 posts

237 months

Friday 21st March 2014
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I sold my last 911 about sixteen months ago and I am still struggling to come to terms with how weird every other car I drive feels - that's to say, st.

Zoin

128 posts

140 months

Friday 21st March 2014
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My 996 felt too light at the front when I first bought it. Had the suspension checked, resulting in new coffin arms but still felt dangerously light.

Eventually traced it to the front tyres. They were top brand (Continental) with plenty of tread left but they were simply too old and so had gone hard. Two new tyres and the front felt a lot more planted.

Boo152

979 posts

199 months

Friday 21st March 2014
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stubbsy996 said:
Whilst 17" wheels might help with the ride, most seem to agree that cosmetically 18" look a lot better, sportier and fill the wheel arches better!
Hmmm. Quick Quiz. Answer A or B.

Which is the most important aspect of 911 ownership.

Is it:

A. How it drives/handles?

or

B. How good it looks in the shopping centre car park?

hehe



wadsy

Original Poster:

369 posts

256 months

Friday 21st March 2014
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Boo152 said:
Hmmm. Quick Quiz. Answer A or B.

Which is the most important aspect of 911 ownership.

Is it:

A. How it drives/handles?

or

B. How good it looks in the shopping centre car park?

hehe
A (imho) smile


Cheers

ortontom

581 posts

261 months

Sunday 23rd March 2014
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mines light at the front (new owner) 996 3.6 conv. above say 70+ it feels very off and light. I will get mine checked...

ortontom

581 posts

261 months

Friday 28th March 2014
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told to reduce light feeling by over inflating tyres and taking it for a hard run, deflate to correct level should sort it.....could be down to my tyres have been sitting in a garage drying out....