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mikem7709

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986 posts

241 months

Friday 21st March 2014
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Anyone using these on a 911 ?

Appreciate most people will say don't scrimp on tyres but I'm looking for something that'll give a little more on very light track use without sacrificing to much on road use (I've used cups before on an M3 but I'm not running anywhere near enough camber on the GT3).

I've run AD08s as a happy medium on my Exige and been impressed but rears are quite scarce and as a result more expensive than what the were at the beginning of the year.

PS2s on mine are only half worn but 5/6yrs old now maybe a fresh set of these would be all I need ??

Wish. Michelin would sort out the supersport sizing.

Orangecurry

7,791 posts

235 months

Friday 21st March 2014
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...dunno which car you have, but I've always liked Bridgestone S-02 as a track-biased tyre, yet it works well enough in the cold/wet.

The advantage of the S-02 is that it gets better as it gets hotter, and also doesn't get trashed by hard use when warm.

Even though it is twenty years old in design. Go figure, as those american chaps might say.

Trev450

6,749 posts

201 months

Friday 21st March 2014
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If cost is not a consideration, then Dunlop DZ03's are among the best track day tyre out there imo. More grip than 888's and don't go off so quickly.


Gibbo205

3,572 posts

236 months

Friday 21st March 2014
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RSR-R is poor in any conditions other than dry and warm. Its a terrible wet/cold tyre and wears pretty fast.

I'd go with AD08-R's if I were you or the new Bridgestone RE-002 if you can get it.

pjsibley

17 posts

152 months

Friday 21st March 2014
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I run Federal 595 RSR tyres on my 17" Cup 2 track wheels (on a 996 C2). I first ran them at Silverstone recently and they performed superbly, despite a cold/damp start to the day. Careful management of the tyre pressures (and a decent geo setup!) was the key to extracting good performance from the tyres throughout the day, particularly as the track dried out and I was able to get more heat into them. They have a nice feel during cornering and I never felt like the grip was going to suddenly disappear on me.

Having run Yokohama AD08s in the past (on a Mk2 Golf track car), I'd say they were more or less comparable in terms of grip/wear in both the wet and dry.

Obviously the above observations are only based on my own experience of these tyres.

BaronVonVaderham

2,322 posts

176 months

Friday 21st March 2014
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Ahem. They seem to disintegrate on smaller, lighter sports cars:

http://www.pistonheads.com/xforums/topic.asp?h=0&a...

mikem7709

Original Poster:

986 posts

241 months

Friday 21st March 2014
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Thanks guys. AD08Rs are a no go, nobody has stock (285/30/18) despite advertising them and Yoko UK can't give an ETA. They have 2 of the older AD08 I could fit but don't really want to mix them with the newer version on the front.

jrsibley, how have you found them in the wet and how are they wearing ? Tread wear is rated at 140 so it's not too horrendous like Cups or AO48, I'm more concerned about braking in the wet than anything else (I've got Mk2 front brakes and it's quite easy to lock up the fronts).

mikem7709

Original Poster:

986 posts

241 months

Friday 21st March 2014
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BaronVonVaderham said:
Ahem. They seem to disintegrate on smaller, lighter sports cars:

http://www.pistonheads.com/xforums/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Hmmm maybe time to reconsider !

jackwood

2,963 posts

237 months

Friday 21st March 2014
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mikem7709 said:
Thanks guys. AD08Rs are a no go, nobody has stock (285/30/18) despite advertising them and Yoko UK can't give an ETA. They have 2 of the older AD08 I could fit but don't really want to mix them with the newer version on the front.

jrsibley, how have you found them in the wet and how are they wearing ? Tread wear is rated at 140 so it's not too horrendous like Cups or AO48, I'm more concerned about braking in the wet than anything else (I've got Mk2 front brakes and it's quite easy to lock up the fronts).
Hi,
Why don't you just bump up to the mk2 sizes (295/30/18 Rear and 235/40/18 Front)? My best mate uses those sizes on his Mk1 GT3 with original mk1 wheels. They fit and run perfectly. His car runs faultlessly on this set-up and has done for the past 18 months.
It also gives you WAY more options on tyre choice.
I am sure there are more than one or two folk on here who have done this.
Jack

Gibbo205

3,572 posts

236 months

Friday 21st March 2014
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BaronVonVaderham said:
Ahem. They seem to disintegrate on smaller, lighter sports cars:

http://www.pistonheads.com/xforums/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Mine did this on my E46 M3, were still fine and is supposedly a design feature, LOL.
I don't rate them, am running cups now and they are far superior in all conditions, apart from wear, only come with 5mm to start!

gfreeman

1,768 posts

279 months

Friday 21st March 2014
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In my experience Bridgestone SO2 and Michelin Pilot Sports are excellent tyres for road and the odd trackday without going to the expense of a second set of wheels etc etc...

I have also used the Pirelli Corsa System N6 tyres (GT3RS spec) successfully on standard 10 and 8 rims - they are a tad expensive but I use them as my road and wet trackday tyres.

With a track set up the Corsas do rub very slightly on the front wheel liners at extreme lock but that is hardly ever so is not a problematic issue unless you do a lot of shopping.

Unfortunately they don't seem to make them anymore in 18's so when they are toast I will go back to SO2s (especially as I have a spare pair of brand new rears in the garage).

Do a few track days - you may get the bug and then you will be buying full on track day jobbies and sets of wheels as well!

mikem7709

Original Poster:

986 posts

241 months

Saturday 22nd March 2014
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That's good to know Jackwood, I wasn't sure if they'd be too wide for 8/10" rims

jackwood

2,963 posts

237 months

Sunday 23rd March 2014
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mikem7709 said:
That's good to know Jackwood, I wasn't sure if they'd be too wide for 8/10" rims
No, they work very well. My mate has two sets of Mk1 wheels. One with 295/235 Michelin Pilot Sport Cup tyres on for track, the other with 295/235 Michelin PS2's on for road/wet track.
Jack