car limits day - alternatives in the South?
car limits day - alternatives in the South?
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oooOLLIooo

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64 posts

167 months

Saturday 22nd March 2014
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Hi all

I am considering booking an "airfield driver training day" through carlimits.com

£220 per head for 4 people - got some good feedback from them from a friend who has tried them a few years ago.

Are there other alternatives out there? For info I am based in Hampshire




M5SDG

16 posts

153 months

Sunday 23rd March 2014
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Not really is the answer. I did the course last year, it's the only place really where you can drive up to and over the car's limits and safely lose it, my only critism was that the big Tarmac area is covered in stones, the sound of them hitting the underside and arches made me wince.

I looked everywhere, Don Palmer uses Bruntingthorpe but the course costs a fortune, the courses at Mira and the other test track are equally expensive.

After car limits I did a track day at Hullavington where they block off a part of a runway and you can happily drift and skid with no other cars to hit, I then did a half day course at drift limits at Bovingdon airfield, only £150 to drift someone else's car (MX-5) and drive to the limit.

Depends what you want to achieve really, thruxton have just opened a skid circle that you can take your own car on, I've just done a trackday at Abingdon airfield and Bedford, both have some big tight corners that you could happily spin from and not hit anything (until the marshals have a word) but in terms of being taught to drive to the limits on a big patch of Tarmac I've yet to find an alternative to car limits. (Although I believe you can pay by the hour to use bruntingthorpe).


spyderman8

1,748 posts

178 months

Sunday 23rd March 2014
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I did a grip limits course with Gary Marsh in my Boxster at Abingdon Airfield. That sort of thing any good?

Chris.

M5SDG

16 posts

153 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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Do you have to book a regular track day at Abingdon with motorsports events and then book Gary on top or can he use the airfield privately at other times?

I've heard that plans motorsports at Dunsfold do some courses but not looked in detail.

Apart from the loose stones the car limits course was very good value.

spyderman8

1,748 posts

178 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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M5SDG said:
Do you have to book a regular track day at Abingdon with motorsports events and then book Gary on top or can he use the airfield privately at other times?
Gary appeared to have an arrangement to use another part of the airfield for half of the day; we did a half track day in the afternoon.

http://aneed4speed.co.uk/

slodge

513 posts

184 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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spyderman8 said:
M5SDG said:
Do you have to book a regular track day at Abingdon with motorsports events and then book Gary on top or can he use the airfield privately at other times?
Gary appeared to have an arrangement to use another part of the airfield for half of the day; we did a half track day in the afternoon.

http://aneed4speed.co.uk/
I did this also last summer and it was invaluable. Half an airfield to yourself is no bad thing. Great for learning car control!

Cheers

Slodge

oooOLLIooo

Original Poster:

64 posts

167 months

Tuesday 25th March 2014
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Hi guys
many thanks for the responses, I will look into all of them

I have already done a trackday with MSE in Abingdon including tuition. It was great to learn how to drive fast on the track, and I will no doubt do it again soon, but I am really after an event where I can purposely drive the car beyond its limits and "lose it" safely.

spyderman8

1,748 posts

178 months

Tuesday 25th March 2014
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oooOLLIooo said:
...but I am really after an event where I can purposely drive the car beyond its limits and "lose it" safely.
You need a low friction surface like they have at the Porsche Experience Centre at Silverstone or Rockingham - either naturally slippy or made slippy with water. Car Limits is anything but - crappy old tarmac with stones everywhere, guaranteed to wreck tyres and possibly chip your paintwork while you're at it.

PetrolTed

34,464 posts

325 months

Tuesday 25th March 2014
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I did the CarLimits course a few years back. No training before or since has made such a material difference to my driving as that did. Can't recommend it enough.

oooOLLIooo

Original Poster:

64 posts

167 months

Wednesday 26th March 2014
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spyderman8 said:
You need a low friction surface like they have at the Porsche Experience Centre at Silverstone or Rockingham - either naturally slippy or made slippy with water. Car Limits is anything but - crappy old tarmac with stones everywhere, guaranteed to wreck tyres and possibly chip your paintwork while you're at it.
That's a good point, but I don't want to learn on an artificially slippy surface, I would rather learn in "real life" conditions.
I'm ready to take the pain on the tyres!

Edited by oooOLLIooo on Monday 31st March 19:24

e46m3c

881 posts

177 months

Friday 28th March 2014
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You could book a drift say at the pod? However it will be low speed skidding. Im also thinking of booking a car limits day.

TackMEU

454 posts

167 months

Friday 28th March 2014
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I have just booked in with Gary Marsh for April 4th at Abingdon, he gets cracking testimonials.

HereBeMonsters

14,180 posts

204 months

Friday 28th March 2014
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MSE do similar things at their other venues as well.

e46m3c

881 posts

177 months

Friday 28th March 2014
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ive just spoke to gary too. not sure i can make the friday will find out on the weekend.

TackMEU

454 posts

167 months

Friday 28th March 2014
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e46m3c said:
ive just spoke to gary too. not sure i can make the friday will find out on the weekend.
Would be all the better to share it with a ph'er. He said he was in contact with someone else on here.

e46m3c

881 posts

177 months

Saturday 29th March 2014
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What are you hoping from the day? Would be best if we wanted the same kinda thing. I'm after high speed oversteer/loss on control.

Also I'm keen to go in the dry. Looks like it might be wet next Friday?

Neil - YVM

1,310 posts

221 months

Sunday 30th March 2014
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PetrolTed said:
I did the CarLimits course a few years back. No training before or since has made such a material difference to my driving as that did. Can't recommend it enough.
Fully Agree, a day spent with Andy Walsh at Car Limits is a day very well spent. (Though agree the surface at North Weild is fairly rough and pretty hard on tyres, especially in a fairly heavy car such as an Impreza).