More Information on these BBS wheels?
More Information on these BBS wheels?
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Tuvra

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7,926 posts

254 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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I am helping an older work colleague clear out his garage and amongst the items he wants to sell are a set of wheels. He informs me these were "off an old friends British sports car" however he cannot remember what car it was. I haven't seen the wheels myself so asked him to take as much detail off them for me and also send a photograph.

Details:
Geschmiedet BBS Germany, 3689 137 99, RS 246, Radnr 9JX16H2ET43.
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From what I can gather these are 16" BBS RS Wheels and thats as far as my knowledge goes. I am also not sure whether these wheels are different widths as I haven't seen them in person.

I believe these wheels may be worth a decent amount of cash? Can anyone give me any more details on them and in particular what cars these wheels fit? I am assuming the "British Sports Car" he referred to was TVR or Lotus as the design doesn't look THAT old. I have told him that it may be worth having these wheels refurbished and sold "as new" rather than selling them as they are.

Any information and price guides would be most helpful.


veevee

1,458 posts

180 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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They look a lot like the ones from a Mk2 Golf GTI.

jof

176 posts

225 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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Look like BBS RMs to me

tomsugden

2,467 posts

257 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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They look very much like TVR Wedge to me.

GreatGranny

9,519 posts

255 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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veevee said:
They look a lot like the ones from a Mk2 Golf GTI.
Definitely not from a Mk2

david_h

579 posts

292 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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Not sure what British sports car they are off but fitment is 5x114.3 I.e Japanese cars.

They are 3 piece bbs rs.

The vw boys love these and redrill them or use adapters to fit. As offsets are high on these they are ideal.

Advertise them as they are on edition38.com and they will fly off the shelf. As to value, I am guessing but at least 500quid.

P-Jay

11,404 posts

220 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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AFAIK any BBS wheels, especially 'splits' are worth a decent amount of money.

Even though they came as standard on a few different types of cars over the years, they're all pretty much 'aftermarket' wheels, if very high cost / cool ones. If you can work out the fitment and sizes you shouldn't have any problem selling them.

Try this to work out their size.

http://www.rimstyle.com/pages/alloy_wheels_explain...

iva cosworth

44,044 posts

192 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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9" wide,so quite a large tyre goes on there.

Tvr Griffith ?

Sea Demon

1,168 posts

242 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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Had a set of those on a BMW 635 & they were also standard on the E30 M3

hondansx

4,700 posts

254 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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Yes, they are BBS RS. Quite common but nevertheless in demand in the right fitment.

If they are an usual fitment, such as the TVR suggested, i doubt they'll go for the same money, but still could pay for a little break!

Personally, i'd get them refurbed to a common fitment and keep hold of them. If your friend doesn't need the money, they will be an appreciating asset!

mad4amanda

2,410 posts

193 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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Hmm this was a popular fitment on 1990s mazdas like RX7 (I have seen factory fit in this size).But picking up on the "british " angle they also could be TVR (many) or Aston fitment but really mainly post 2000, so not that old . The PCD is as diverse as it comes what we could do with is the centrebore but then they could be aftermarket fitment and utilise rings . Nice wheels though, 16" is a bit small by modern standards but will give good ride comfort.
if you could accurately measure the centrebore with a caliper I can let you know more.





Edited by mad4amanda on Monday 24th March 13:04


Edited by mad4amanda on Monday 24th March 13:05

ManOpener

12,467 posts

198 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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david_h said:
Not sure what British sports car they are off but fitment is 5x114.3 I.e Japanese cars.
They're RSes (RS'? RS's?) (because RMs only came in VW fitment) and I'm fairly sure they came as standard on some of the limited edition Mk1 MX-5s.
5x114.3 was also used by several TVRs as others have said.

mad4amanda

2,410 posts

193 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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Mk 1 mx5 are all 4 x 100

RikST

677 posts

178 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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MG RV8?

These had some quite nice BBS Splits from standard...

rigga

8,806 posts

230 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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iva cosworth said:
9" wide,so quite a large tyre goes on there.

Tvr Griffith ?
Nope Griff is 4x108 pcd
Earlier wedges were 5 stud but not sure on exact pcd

Dodsy

7,175 posts

256 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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Not wedge wheels they have exposed studs/bolts . Certainly look like griffith wheels

http://www.griffith500se.co.uk/

mad4amanda

2,410 posts

193 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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Im afraid what they look like is immaterial what we need to know is the centrebore they could be many things inc some TVR MGrV8 RX7 even Honda NSX at a push

iva cosworth

44,044 posts

192 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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rigga said:
iva cosworth said:
9" wide,so quite a large tyre goes on there.

Tvr Griffith ?
Nope Griff is 4x108 pcd
Earlier wedges were 5 stud but not sure on exact pcd
The OP hasn't said what the pcd is or even whether these are 4 or 5 stud......confused

Just lots of speculation so far.

E30M3SE

8,493 posts

225 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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Sea Demon said:
Had a set of those on a BMW 635 & they were also standard on the E30 M3
Errr. No. They were never standard on any E30 M3.

iva cosworth said:
The OP hasn't said what the pcd is or even whether these are 4 or 5 stud......confused

Just lots of speculation so far.
Well no. RS 246 were all 5 stud with a pcd of 114.3 with offset of ET43.

Cerbera have same pcd, as do, T350, Sagaris, Tamora & Tuscan Speed 6.

Edited by E30M3SE on Monday 24th March 21:35

FD3Si

857 posts

173 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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The 246s are 5x114.3. Classic jap fitment.
The ones fitted to mk1 Eunos's aren't RSs, they're 1 piece wheels.
They aren't FD RX7 OEM. I'd put my bet on them being RWD 90s Japanese. I'm thinking mk3 Supra maybe. Possibly NSX. Too OTT for non GTR Skyline, and wrong offset for GTRs.

When did TVR start using 5x114.3?
Is it a set of 4? I'd expect them to be paired with narrower for the front, a bit of googling sees them often up for sale with 245s, which are 8s.

Edit: beaten to it.

Edited by FD3Si on Monday 24th March 21:37