RE: MotoGP Qatar: PH2
RE: MotoGP Qatar: PH2
Monday 24th March 2014

MotoGP Qatar: PH2

MotoGP 2014 gets underway with a thrilling race in Qatar



A new season and a new era for MotoGP in the UK - no more Eurosport, no more BBC, now it's BT Sport and a new commentary team. I'll leave it up to the forums to debate the pros and cons, although you have to hand it to Keith Huewen for one of the funniest comments of the weekend when Julian Ryder called him Toby. "I'm not bald and I don't wear brown shoes...." Class.

Stefan Bradl led the way early on
Stefan Bradl led the way early on
OK, out on track new rule changes meant a load of confusion and unusual events. Jorge Lorenzo having a full-on strop, Aleix Espargaro dominating practice then binning it twice in qualifying, Ducatis still off the pace, the privateer Hondas slower than anyone would have guessed; it was all fairly hectic. At the end it was a familiar grin in top spot as Marc Marquez snatched pole from Alvaro Bautista with Brit Bradley Smith gaining his first ever from row start. Lights out and MotoGP 2014 was underway.

Where the hell did Lorenzo come from? A great start by Bradley was nothing compared to how Lorenzo got off the line. Although it went badly wrong for Lorenzo in massive fashion a few corners later, a bad end to a terrible weekend for the Spaniard.

At the front Bradl was leading the way with Marquez behind and Smith on his tail, however Bautista was starting to wake up and Rossi was looking on form. And then Dani arrived on the scene.

It soon came down to just Marquez and Rossi
It soon came down to just Marquez and Rossi
With the lead group now compromising of six riders, suddenly Valentino Rossi was briefly up into second place. Life in the old dog yet? With Bradl hitting the deck, the acid test was whether Rossi could hang onto new leader Marquez. Believe it or not, on lap 14 he took the lead! Would the Yamaha's fuel hold out?

Ten to go and with Rossi still in the lead, Bradley was dropping off slightly but Marquez was looking the fastest rider on the track. Could his hard tyre choice be paying off? A lap later he took the lead and it was now Rossi's turn to try and keep up. Sadly for the Brits, Bradley crashed out with four to go, but with Rossi still on Marquez's tail, the last lap was still shaping up to be a thriller.

What a race. Rossi so nearly took an amazing win, but in the end it was the new wonder kid on the block, Marquez, rather than the old goat.

Rossi held on for a while...
Rossi held on for a while...
A huge shout has to go out for Bradley, who rode amazingly, and Scott Redding who finished a stunning seventh, beating Nicky Hayden, and Cal who finished sixth. Just!

Moto2 and with Sam Lowes in an impressive fifth spot and Gino Rea in 24th, could WSS champion Sam bring home some MotoGP silverware? He'd have to get to the grid first, what was Sam doing off the track before the race even started? A hectic first few laps saw a few riders hit the dirt, but thankfully neither of the Brits. While Gino ran into machine issues, Sam settled into the pack and by mid race was holding eighth. The race was eventually won by Rabat from Nakagami and Kallio. Lowes finished a brilliant seventh.

... but Marquez took the win eventually
... but Marquez took the win eventually
Moto3 saw Danny Kent and John McPhee both qualifying in the top seven so it looked like a Brit podium may possibly be on the cards. Qatar is all about the slipstream for Moto3 and both Brits got good starts, putting them in the main pack as Jack Miller and Alex Marquez broke clear. Having led the entire race, in the final laps Miller and Marquez were caught by the pack and the last lap saw five riders all in with a shot of victory. A mistake by Marquez let Miller escape for the win (awesome victory wheelie) with Marquez in second and Vazquez third. McPhee scooped 11th while Kent was 13th.

 


Results:

MotoGP
1. Marquez (Repsol Honda Team)
2. Rossi (Movistar Yamaha MotoGP)
3. Pedrosa (Repsol Honda Team)

Moto2
1. Rabat (Marc VDS Racing Team)
2. Nakagami (IDEMITSU Honda Team Asia)
3. Kallio (Marc VDS Racing Team)

Moto3
1: Miller (Red Bull KTM Ajo)
2: Marquez (Estrella Galicia 0,0)
3: Vazquez (SaxoPrint-RTG)

Brit watch

Cal Crutchlow (MotoGP) - 6
Bradley Smith (MotoGP) - DNF
Michael Laverty (MotoGP) -
Scott Redding (MotoGP) - 7
Sam Lowes (Moto2) - 7
Gino Rea - (Moto2) - DNF
John McPhee (Moto3) - 11
Danny Kent (Moto3) - 13

Author
Discussion

dingocooke

Original Poster:

670 posts

243 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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Even more impressive that Marquez broke his leg a month ago, and has had almost no time on the bike since!
Come on PH, even Reuters news agency are covering Moto GP better!

George29

14,714 posts

187 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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Sam Lowes actually finished 6th after Nakagami was disqualified for running an illegal air filter.

anonymous-user

77 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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Missing it already.
Damn you BT!

HeMightBeBanned

626 posts

201 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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The commentary was beyond awful.

Damn you BT.

k99

546 posts

191 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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Fantastic race spoiled slightly by the abysmal BT Sport coverage.

Skyedriver

22,309 posts

305 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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Hadn't realised this was only on BT now
So that'll ssave me some money as I only subscribe to Sky for Eurosport.

motoloco

32 posts

188 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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Great racing (are you watching, F1 fans...?), coverage much better than the BBC effort with idiot-in-the-BRDC-cap Cox, but behind the Eurosport level. But it's the first race, so it's bound to get better.

Obiwonkeyblokey

5,400 posts

263 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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It was great and I enjoyed the coverage. Now im off to find something to moan about.

NotNormal

2,403 posts

237 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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GravelMachineGun said:
Missing it already.
Damn you BT!
+1 frown

dc2rr07

1,238 posts

254 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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will have to wait till tonight on ITV4 at 8pm for the highlights, so don't tell me the result !!!!

dafeller

603 posts

213 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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HeMightBeBanned said:
The commentary was beyond awful.

Damn you BT.
While I enjoy looking at her, I have to say that Melanie Sykes sets a new standard for 'vacuous visual addendum' in a broadcasting team. She knows neither the general topic nor the vocabulary and it's just plain painful to hear her try to add anything to conversation. Seriously, if the only thing you can ask is 'how's it feel out there?' you should go back to catalog work. Toseland deserved credit for being patient with her, but then, the rest of the team was not inspiring.

It's like the whole lot of them just got out there because 'wow, we really like bikes!', as if they were all recruited from a Sunday-ride pub meeting the day before and just dumped off a bus at the track. I take that back, there's a lot better knowledge and discussion at most Sunday pub rides.

banx22

88 posts

222 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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I haven't watched the BT sport coverage but I think it would be brilliant if they got Guy Martin to do the commentary and get him down to the winners area to do the interviews, grid walk, etc. imagine that.


itiejim

1,822 posts

228 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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Brilliant race, but beyond awful commentary.

Really, it was like listening to a couple of "blokes down the pub" going on. This is an area that really, really needs improving.

MOTK

335 posts

157 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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If you have bt internet then you should also have free access to btsport. Still rubbish that's it's gone from the beeb.
Great race though.

DreadUK

206 posts

155 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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Brilliant races and compared to Auntie, brilliant coverage. Not as good as Eurosport, but they had 18 years to perfect their coverage and commentary. Give the commentary team a chance. James Toseland was a bit wooden but knows what he's talking about, the tart (whassername) was as nervous as mouse in a roomful of cats. I love the suggestion that Guy Martin be interviewing down in the pits, he would probably have turned on that smartass Cruthcelow and told him where to go which would have given me the greatest of pleasure.....ignorant little turd.

If you can't/won't pay for it go to www.wiziwig.com and use the 'Acestream' link. You have to download Acestream but you can plug your laptop into your TV with HDMI and the quality is amazing. It was down for the race (which is unusual) so I watched it on Flash and it was brilliant quality as well.

anonymous-user

77 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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HeMightBeBanned said:
The commentary was beyond awful.

Damn you BT.
Yes DAM BT but the commentary team is the best in the World.

Ex Eurosport team are the best in the business.

If you do not like them you need your head checked.

Amazing knowledge and insight.

anonymous-user

77 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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itiejim said:
Brilliant race, but beyond awful commentary.

Really, it was like listening to a couple of "blokes down the pub" going on. This is an area that really, really needs improving.
Best commentary team out there.

Have you NEVER watched Eurosport??

Just wish BT had not won the rights.

itiejim

1,822 posts

228 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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No, I have never watched Eurosport.

However, I found the BT commentary rather parochial, too focussed on what "the Brits" were doing - Moto GP is the wrong type of motorsport to be too concerned about British success.

The pit walk consisted of talking to all (and only) the Brits on the grid.

Not the approach I want to see from a truly international series.

kiteless

12,379 posts

227 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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Come on, there's nothing really to gripe about here.

Having watched motorcycle GP since Rocket Ron Haslam was racing, I since remember the years when the only Brit to cheer on was Jeremy McWilliams on the QUB 250 Honda and Aprilia 250. Luckily, the exploits of Gardner / Schwantz / Lawson / Rainey / Doohan / Rossi to name but a few more than made it a spectacle (although I must admit to weeping with joy at Jeremy's 250 win at Assen)

Yes, since 2000 we've had Brit "hopefuls" in the top class like Leon Haslam / Neil Hodgson / JT, but they were never going to compete on the machinery given to them.

This year, we have four Brits in the top class, and I never thought I'd see that in my lifetime. Not to mention another looking competitive in his rookie year in the 2nd tier class, and another two Brits in the tiddler class. Also, like it as not, the new rules have made things very interesting indeed : the Open class will qualify well, but clearly the Factory bikes will have the race pace.

Combine this with the best commentary team since Moody, Noyes, and Mamola and it's really, honestly, all very good indeed.

DreadUK

206 posts

155 months

Tuesday 25th March 2014
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kiteless said:
Come on, there's nothing really to gripe about here.

Having watched motorcycle GP since Rocket Ron Haslam was racing, I since remember the years when the only Brit to cheer on was Jeremy McWilliams on the QUB 250 Honda and Aprilia 250. Luckily, the exploits of Gardner / Schwantz / Lawson / Rainey / Doohan / Rossi to name but a few more than made it a spectacle (although I must admit to weeping with joy at Jeremy's 250 win at Assen)

Yes, since 2000 we've had Brit "hopefuls" in the top class like Leon Haslam / Neil Hodgson / JT, but they were never going to compete on the machinery given to them.

This year, we have four Brits in the top class, and I never thought I'd see that in my lifetime. Not to mention another looking competitive in his rookie year in the 2nd tier class, and another two Brits in the tiddler class. Also, like it as not, the new rules have made things very interesting indeed : the Open class will qualify well, but clearly the Factory bikes will have the race pace.

Combine this with the best commentary team since Moody, Noyes, and Mamola and it's really, honestly, all very good indeed.
Here Here....although I don't think the commentary team is up there with Moody and Mamola, Randy was outstanding, both technically and from an entertainment perspective, but give this lot a chance. Neil Hodgson needs to take a leaf from Martin Brundles 'book of arrogance' and make the primadonna 'celebrity' riders like Crutchelow know that if it wasn't for people like him, they wouldn't get any damn publicity. Too bad if Crutchelows bike broke down/wasn't fast enough/has a team mate as talented as Dovi etc. he's getting paid to talk the talk even if he can't walk the walk. JT has to stop thinking about his rock star looks, and the tarts no worse than the tart doing F1 now who used to do MotoGP. But that's part of the problem with both sports. Promoters seem to think we testosterone fuelled Alpha males all spend a weekend at an event or a couple of days in front of the box to watch totty. Seriously, I couldn't give a monkeys, I want to watch car and bike racing.

The two best commentators in any sport, Murray Walker and James Hunt (although Murray's 'legend' status seems to conveniently forget what an idiot we all thought he was at the time) didn't need anything but a microphone and a monitor. No slappers, no grid walks, no stupid, Janet & John technical explanations for the celebrity spotters that cant tell the time never mind understand how a slipper clutch works.

Sorry.....rant over. Just get hacked off at the dumbing down of a highly technical sport to the lowest common denominator.