what ratio gearing for spa ?
what ratio gearing for spa ?
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andy rob

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652 posts

244 months

Monday 31st March 2014
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How much fasters will I be going at spa ??? anybody tech ideas or experience ?

other than u tube videos, anyone know a way of working out what gearing I will need, dont want to overgear the car & kill it coming out the corners but neither do I want to bouncing it off limiter.
Here the details
1600 kilo V8 supercar 650 bhp, fairly decent aero but will be braking fairly early
1:1 top gear, 6500 limiter, 680 height tyres
I currently run a 3.25 diff at the fast uk tracks silversotne/snetterton & a 3.5 at the rest of them, which is perfect, ie nearly on the limiter at the fast parts of the track.
Im guessing a 3.0 would be ok ie 10 % higher top speed, beacuse wont be going that much faster than snetterton ?

Greensleeves

1,235 posts

225 months

Tuesday 1st April 2014
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Here's what I did before racing the Escort at Silverstone. Escort is a rally car with a 5.1 diff.

I had data on the lap timer from Cadwell so I could work out how fast I was doing at the end of Park straight or the start straight based on exit speed from Charlie's and Barn. Used Google Earth to compare lengths of straights with Silverstone and extrapolated the speeds to work out that I should hit the limiter in top about 20 yards before the braking point into Luffield. I was OK at Stowe.

I wasn't working out ratios, simply whether it was likely to go bang or not.

As it turned out , as Hangar is downhill and Wellington up, the speeds were pretty much the same at the end of each and a smudging under the limiter.

You could do similar using data you have from uk circuits and applying testicular mass factor for Au Rouge. Not sure how you will calculate the losses in acceleration due to gearing up though. You're on your own there.

spikey78

701 posts

203 months

Tuesday 1st April 2014
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This may or may not be relevant but in my FF2000 it was the same gearing as Snetterton.. The top speed wasn't as high as you'd expect because the long flat out bits are uphill.
I haven't got 650bhp though, but it does only weigh 450kg

darren no 7

558 posts

270 months

Tuesday 1st April 2014
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Hi rob that's the same gearing as I' am going to use at spa when you there I'm taking the tvr sagaris in June for the dutch super car !

cwin

961 posts

241 months

Tuesday 1st April 2014
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We saw about 170 ish in the old yellow turbo your raced against at Malory mate, if that helps

Craig

Graham

16,378 posts

306 months

Tuesday 1st April 2014
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I only managed a smidge over 150 in my rover powered tuscan. 300bhp/ton and stock challenge t5 with 3.30:1 diff plenty rpm to go in 5th

just over 10mph more than the old snett layout with same gearing

andy rob

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652 posts

244 months

Tuesday 1st April 2014
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sounds like the 3.0 will be right for the job then, so no more eurosaloons for you then Darren ? and craig your boys have moved on from classic thunder ?
good to hear from you both

cwin

961 posts

241 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2014
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andy rob said:
sounds like the 3.0 will be right for the job then, so no more eurosaloons for you then Darren ? and craig your boys have moved on from classic thunder ?
good to hear from you both
Yes, we sold the Sagaris and Danny is racing in the caterham R300 championships this year, good luck with your racing mate, you'll love Spa and it should suit all that torque from your car,