Great value British prices: Catch it while you can
Eyeing up a classic purchase? Britain really is the place to buy, as Keith explains

For those of us who like our older cars with a whiff of the exotic, and who aren't afraid to cross borders in order to buy and sell, it's clear that losing the trade barriers that had been in place for decades may well be a bad idea. Since Christmas, I've reminisced about a lot of very cool cars on PH, but one thing that you can't escape is this - if you're in Britain, pretty much all of those cars are an absolute bargain compared with what they pay for them in, say, Germany.
After a couple of trips to big classic trade shows in Germany during the past couple of months, I've come to the inescapable conclusion that if you're looking to sell any kind of car with a following, you could do much worse than do it over there. But don't worry - you can still come back here and buy your next car through the PH classifieds, taking advantage of our considerably lower prices. And equally, European buyers really should come here shop in the classifieds, and take advantage of our cheaper cars...
Take the Lotus Carlton I previewed in February - it was estimated at £14-16K at H&H's February sale, and in the end it didn't sell, suggesting bidding didn't make it to the lower estimate figure. So, let's say that the natural value of that car is currently around £13K, with £15K possible if the seller's prepared to wait. Without seeing the car first hand, I don't know what state it was in, but let's assume it's a UK condition two car (good, usable, but not perfect). That equates to a German condition three - and in their price guides, such a car would be valued at a cool 26,500 euros, having risen 30 per cent in value in the past 12 months.
A couple of weeks back, I commented on a low-mileage but slightly faded BMW M5 that I'd spotted in Germany for 17,500 euros. That was actually spot on for the German price guides for a condition two car (equal to our condition one - good condition, but not concours). But a similar car popped up in Essen - better presented and polished, and up for, wait for it, 29,900 euros - suggesting that early M5s are quite a way ahead of book over there. And guess what? It sold during the show. What would we pay for the same car here - again in dog knob red? Call it £15,000 with a following wind.
It's the same for other favourites of mine, highlighted in PH. The 1989-2000 R129-generation Mercedes-Benz 500SL, which I think is currently stunning value in the UK is laughably cheaper here than in Germany. We're looking at £3,000-4,000 for something very usable, but for the Germans, they book at between 10,200-15,900 euros for condition two-three. And that's taking into account of the 30% drop in values over the past 12 months or so.
There will always be the issue of left- and right-hand drive to consider, so of course, either you don't mind about it, or you stick to cars that are available in LHD only. But it does work the other way - Germans love British classics such as the TVR Griffith, Lotus Esprit and MG RV8 in right-hand drive, so bear that in mind, if you're looking at selling.
Cars that come in LHD-only are ahead, too. Early Lancia Delta Integrales are worth more in Europe (booking at 17,000 euros, compared with, say, £8,000 here for equivalent condition cars), and it it's the same with E30-generation BMW M3s, which are rated at 30,000 euros for good, but not mint examples in Germany.
And currently, as we're all part of one big, happy, European Union, you can sell your car over there, drive it over if you want a final last goodbye, and they can register it there, comfortable in the knowledge they don't have to pay any additional taxes. If only it were that simple buying and selling from Japan or the USA. I don't know whether this will change if we do vote to leave the EU, but all I do know is this - before the single market, the free trade of cars, either way, was a whole lot harder back then than it is now. So let's hope things stay the way they are.
Okay, so it's harder buying and selling across borders, but the potential profits are considerable if you don't mind doing your homework, and have friends on the ground that can do the legwork. It's also worth bearing in mind, that there are plenty of cars that are cheaper over there than here - and if you're brave, and combine selling one into an inflated market, and then buying another from another depressed market, the world is your oyster - and you can turn an average car into another brilliant one. As we speak, I am seeking out Renault 5GT Turbos in Greece and Citroen SMs in Italy...
Time to make a list.

The German buyer of my mate's car said it was because the German throw away culture and meant there were very few left to buy at 'reasonable' prices. Also, many left over there were not standard any more.
italians 2nd hand cars seem the cheapest on this this site which covers western europe and some.
Wierd prices paid, they pay top dollar for yank tanks here, whereas old amazons, vauxhalls, humbers etc cheap as chips.
Ok so these are not exactly audi quattros.
Much frantic manths (man maths) when i saw the alfa.
In Poland for example, you will have great trouble registering a RHD car. This went all the way up to the Court of Justice in Luxembourg, which (finally, this year) ruled that current approach of not allowing RHD to be registered is illegal.
But you did let the cat out of the bag with the Delta. Damn you!
Depressed UK prices do have their impact on the cars' condition at the low/middle end of the price scale though. Any number of delapidated Griffiths and Chimaeras out there, while rarity & used values here mean that cars like this are unlikely to fall into such an unloved state.
So, given your location, do you walk to the 'Power Big Meet' each year?
also like the fact there's a blend of real old heaps, wild customs in amongst the concours winners, oh and the fact everyone is driving instead of parked in a field sitting in a deck chair.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_Big_Meet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kWUJuU-H5A
I suppose if you went to places where there's a larger wealth gap between the rich and poor you may find the opposite effect as labour will be cheap but there's still a lot of money around to buy nice new cars.
There are some cheap cars in Italy but there are also many botched and messed about with cars. I would get any purchase from Italy thoroughly inspected, even if from a main dealer.
I know in Germany there's www.suchen.mobile.de which is their auto trader equivalent.
Anybody care to add?
Ireland, the exception to that rule for some bizarre reason.
I know in Germany there's www.suchen.mobile.de which is their auto trader equivalent.
Anybody care to add?
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