driver fined for driving with no doors!
driver fined for driving with no doors!
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wjwren

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4,484 posts

164 months

FourWheelDrift

92,270 posts

313 months

Thursday 3rd April 2014
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I think they would experience a few "does not compute" moments if they saw a Mini Moke then.

Although the headline is very misleading as the car had no lights at all, which is probably the bigger thing.

DrDoofenshmirtz

16,952 posts

229 months

Thursday 3rd April 2014
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No doors is fine...but you need a bonnet and lights.

TheEnd

15,370 posts

217 months

Thursday 3rd April 2014
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...and he's got himself a place a college too.

iva cosworth

44,044 posts

192 months

Thursday 3rd April 2014
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My first thought was BMW Z1.......rolleyes

GadgeS3C

4,727 posts

193 months

Thursday 3rd April 2014
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"A student from Nottinghamshire has been fined after he was caught driving a car without any doors, lights or bonnet - and using his arms to indicate when turning."

When did they make arm signals illegal?

Efbe

9,251 posts

195 months

Thursday 3rd April 2014
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I don't get why this is quite so bad.

you can get a motorbike mot with no lights. they also don't have doors, or bonnets.

Jawaman

271 posts

162 months

Thursday 3rd April 2014
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Probably the lack of bonnet and brake lights more than anything.

No brake lights could cause an accident

No bonnet could cause a pedestrian some nasty injuries

Efbe

9,251 posts

195 months

Thursday 3rd April 2014
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Jawaman said:
Probably the lack of bonnet and brake lights more than anything.

No brake lights could cause an accident

No bonnet could cause a pedestrian some nasty injuries
brake lights yes, but there arm signals for that.

bonnet. not really. a motorbike can have an exposed engine. and the front side of a truck/bus will cause far far more serious injuries.

Riley Blue

23,205 posts

255 months

Thursday 3rd April 2014
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There are such things as Construction and Use Regulations which he might have overlooked.

shost

879 posts

172 months

Thursday 3rd April 2014
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Riley Blue said:
There are such things as Construction and Use Regulations which he might have overlooked.
Exactly, a bike is designed to have exposed parts. A car engine will have plenty of sharp bits. Moving belts and fans ...

I don't see how anyone can defend these actions but this is PH.

NH1

1,333 posts

158 months

Thursday 3rd April 2014
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I once managed to write a scrapper off outside my house many moons ago. I had already taken the bonnet off it to remove the engine and needed to spin it round the other way. I got hit side on by a jet bottle gas van that I pulled right in front of. The police turned up and he was somewhat bamboozled by the lack of bonnet.

There was no Mot, I didn't have any insurance and it had 3 flat tyres. The end result was £50 fine and no points. You had to love those early 90s solicitors, with the amount of TWOCS going on they knew more about the law than the people that wrote them. Jerry Crangle and Sons, the car criminals friend.

AlexRS2782

8,512 posts

242 months

Thursday 3rd April 2014
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shost said:
I don't see how anyone can defend these actions but this is PH.
I said similar on the thread in SP&L, but kind of attributed it to being similar to recent advice given by some users on here with regards to people with non roadworthy cars being driven to an MOT centre or just driven anywhere they like even if they're not road legal or possibly got problems if they've been stood for so long without being used.

I reckon it's highly likely that if that lad had logged on here & asked the question "can i drive my 306 to a scrap yard with most of it's parts missing in xyz condition?" some users here would still have told him to "chance it mate as there's little to no chance you'll get done" as it seems to be the way PH has gone the last year or so for advice rolleyeslaughgetmecoat

NH1

1,333 posts

158 months

Thursday 3rd April 2014
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AlexRS2782 said:
shost said:
I don't see how anyone can defend these actions but this is PH.
I said similar on the thread in SP&L, but kind of attributed it to being similar to recent advice given by some users on here with regards to people with non roadworthy cars being driven to an MOT centre or just driven anywhere they like even if they're not road legal or possibly got problems if they've been stood for so long without being used.

I reckon it's highly likely that if that lad had logged on here & asked the question "can i drive my 306 to a scrap yard with most of it's parts missing in xyz condition?" some users here would still have told him to "chance it mate as there's little to no chance you'll get done" as it seems to be the way PH has gone the last year or so for advice rolleyeslaughgetmecoat
Does it really matter though in the grand scheme of things. So you get pulled up, a copper lectures you for a bit which you ignore. You get a fine so you transfer so money over to the courts. When you get your statement it will show you have less money than you had previously but its just figures printed on a bit of paper, I could do that.

If you go to court, its just a building the same as your local library or chip shop, people inside will pretend to be all powerful and demand that you are scared of them, but they are just people like you and I. They demand you pay them money but its no worse than the situation above. You may even loose your liberty for a short while but is it really any worse lying in a cell watching TV than lay on the couch watching TV.

If you step back and take a look, its just all a house of cards trying to trick you into staying a slave to the system. Once you are dead you are dead and no amount of authority is going to change that.

carinaman

25,164 posts

201 months

Thursday 3rd April 2014
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GadgeS3C said:
"A student from Nottinghamshire has been fined after he was caught driving a car without any doors, lights or bonnet - and using his arms to indicate when turning."

When did they make arm signals illegal?
Those that apply to be Driving Examiners may have to do arm signals during the driving test.

northwest monkey

6,370 posts

218 months

Friday 4th April 2014
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NH1 said:
Does it really matter though in the grand scheme of things. So you get pulled up, a copper lectures you for a bit which you ignore. You get a fine so you transfer so money over to the courts. When you get your statement it will show you have less money than you had previously but its just figures printed on a bit of paper, I could do that.

If you go to court, its just a building the same as your local library or chip shop, people inside will pretend to be all powerful and demand that you are scared of them, but they are just people like you and I. They demand you pay them money but its no worse than the situation above. You may even loose your liberty for a short while but is it really any worse lying in a cell watching TV than lay on the couch watching TV.

If you step back and take a look, its just all a house of cards trying to trick you into staying a slave to the system. Once you are dead you are dead and no amount of authority is going to change that.
I can't decide if you're a wind up merchant or a revolutionary.

Lipstick revolutionary I'm betting.

aka_kerrly

12,505 posts

239 months

Friday 4th April 2014
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That's quite harsh!!!

Many years ago I drove a car a similar distance to my local scrap yard. It had no bumpers, no lights, no number plates, no interior except for a drivers seat, no exhaust system but perfectly good engine & running gear.

I was stopped by the police about 500 yards from the scrap yard entrance. I got a bking at the side of the road plus a court summons. On the big day though I managed to get away with just a telling off!!!!

Censorious

15,169 posts

263 months

Friday 4th April 2014
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I got a fine & points for no front wing on my car.

The annoying thing was I was caught right outside my house having only just driven around the block to check a repair.

I did question why it was such a heinous crime and the bobby said that a pedestrian could fall in to the exposed wheel.

mwstewart

8,553 posts

217 months

Friday 4th April 2014
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Censorious said:
I did question why it was such a heinous crime and the bobby said that a pedestrian could fall in to the exposed wheel.
Quite, hence why all motorbikes are illegal to ride on the road.

Stu R

21,638 posts

244 months

Friday 4th April 2014
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Bonnets and lights are fair enough. Jeeps with no doors are infinitely more fun than those with though.