Wheel Upgrade Thoughts
Discussion
TBH if it aint broke dont fix it, if you think they are a good wheel keep them.
I cant see £500 wheels being that much better than your current ones, unless you got a bargain or quality second hand set for that much, I would of thought you would have to push the money up to get real benefits from your current set.
Id spend the money on something else if it was me
I cant see £500 wheels being that much better than your current ones, unless you got a bargain or quality second hand set for that much, I would of thought you would have to push the money up to get real benefits from your current set.
Id spend the money on something else if it was me
As much as I agree with what Okgo said
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If £500 is your budget and you are looking for something noticable, I'd go for some cheap Chinese deep carbon jobs and get some aero benefit. I don't think you will see much gains from spending mid-range wheel money over what you already have otherwise.
...If £500 is your budget and you are looking for something noticable, I'd go for some cheap Chinese deep carbon jobs and get some aero benefit. I don't think you will see much gains from spending mid-range wheel money over what you already have otherwise.
I honestly dont think you will see that much of an advantage if any at all by going from the quattros to the Visions, the 150g difference wont make any difference and its the difference between going out with a bottle full and one half full.
If it were me, I'd consider for the 50mm carbon clinchers from planet x if you want to keep an alu brake track, heavier but you will really start to see the aero benefit which will allow you to maintain an average higher speed/save watts/impress girls...
as mentioned the Chinese Clinchers are worth a look, Si bought some tubs from 2011cycling2011 on ebay and really likes them, I'm eyeing up the clinchers myself. They are built up using really good branded hub, spokes and rims.
Alternatively, Campag Eurus from Wiggle are £515 and would be plenty of awesome though Zondas for £300 are still the bargain bang per buck wheel.
If it were me, I'd consider for the 50mm carbon clinchers from planet x if you want to keep an alu brake track, heavier but you will really start to see the aero benefit which will allow you to maintain an average higher speed/save watts/impress girls...
as mentioned the Chinese Clinchers are worth a look, Si bought some tubs from 2011cycling2011 on ebay and really likes them, I'm eyeing up the clinchers myself. They are built up using really good branded hub, spokes and rims.
Alternatively, Campag Eurus from Wiggle are £515 and would be plenty of awesome though Zondas for £300 are still the bargain bang per buck wheel.
Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 4th April 18:50
Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 4th April 18:50
pablo said:
If it were me, I'd consider for the 50mm carbon clinchers from planet x if you want to keep an alu brake track, heavier but you will really start to see the aero benefit which will allow you to maintain an average higher speed/save watts/impress girls...
as mentioned the Chinese Clinchers are worth a look, Si bought some tubs from 2011cycling2011 on ebay and really likes them, I'm eyeing up the clinchers myself. They are built up using really good branded hub, spokes and rims.
Seriously contemplating some chinese clinchers, just need some more experiences really! IF I did go for them for summer riding on the road bike what sort of rim would you guys recommend? 50mm or 38mm? Currently got some 50mm tubs for my TT, and haven't had any major issues, but running with disc at the back. Presume this sort of depth would be fine.as mentioned the Chinese Clinchers are worth a look, Si bought some tubs from 2011cycling2011 on ebay and really likes them, I'm eyeing up the clinchers myself. They are built up using really good branded hub, spokes and rims.
Edited by pablo on Friday 4th April 18:50
pablo said:
I honestly dont think you will see that much of an advantage if any at all by going from the quattros to the Visions, the 150g difference wont make any difference and its the difference between going out with a bottle full and one half full.
If it were me, I'd consider for the 50mm carbon clinchers from planet x if you want to keep an alu brake track, heavier but you will really start to see the aero benefit which will allow you to maintain an average higher speed/save watts/impress girls...
as mentioned the Chinese Clinchers are worth a look, Si bought some tubs from 2011cycling2011 on ebay and really likes them, I'm eyeing up the clinchers myself. They are built up using really good branded hub, spokes and rims.
Alternatively, Campag Eurus from Wiggle are £515 and would be plenty of awesome though Zondas for £300 are still the bargain bang per buck wheel.
Yeah the Chinese tubs knocked 1 Kg from my original wheelset (RS10's) you can definitely feel that when you pick up the bike and on initial acceleration. The hubs are good(Novatec) although reading through the various forums have a penchant for getting through bearings if abused; ie winter riding. They'll not be for everyone as they are lacking in the styling dept, and most definitely a punt regarding longevity, however, I'll be racing on them and my budget can't stretch to the likes of Zipp etc. They roll well and weigh very little, that'll do for me.If it were me, I'd consider for the 50mm carbon clinchers from planet x if you want to keep an alu brake track, heavier but you will really start to see the aero benefit which will allow you to maintain an average higher speed/save watts/impress girls...
as mentioned the Chinese Clinchers are worth a look, Si bought some tubs from 2011cycling2011 on ebay and really likes them, I'm eyeing up the clinchers myself. They are built up using really good branded hub, spokes and rims.
Alternatively, Campag Eurus from Wiggle are £515 and would be plenty of awesome though Zondas for £300 are still the bargain bang per buck wheel.
Edited by pablo on Friday 4th April 18:50
Edited by pablo on Friday 4th April 18:50
Regarding your upgrade thoughts, I'm not sure you'll notice. Depends entirely on what you want out of the deal. Better looking, better feel, better performance, longer lasting? Does your budget tick more boxes than your current set up?
TSCfree said:
Yeah the Chinese tubs knocked 1 Kg from my original wheelset (RS10's) you can definitely feel that when you pick up the bike and on initial acceleration. The hubs are good(Novatec) although reading through the various forums have a penchant for getting through bearings if abused; ie winter riding. They'll not be for everyone as they are lacking in the styling dept, and most definitely a punt regarding longevity, however, I'll be racing on them and my budget can't stretch to the likes of Zipp etc. They roll well and weigh very little, that'll do for me.
Regarding your upgrade thoughts, I'm not sure you'll notice. Depends entirely on what you want out of the deal. Better looking, better feel, better performance, longer lasting? Does your budget tick more boxes than your current set up?
A set of RS80s now 81s would have also knocked 800g/1Kg off the weight as well. I have gone through two sets of bearings riding my RS80s thorugh winter. Regarding your upgrade thoughts, I'm not sure you'll notice. Depends entirely on what you want out of the deal. Better looking, better feel, better performance, longer lasting? Does your budget tick more boxes than your current set up?
I think my next set of wheels will be a set of chinese 38mm carbon clinchers for the CX bike. Hug weight saving over the current heavyweights fitted
Haha.
Some good suggestions, I've had lots of different wheels and I'll say that the difference between Mavic Aksiums and Zipp firecrest tubs (1280g) is likely less than 1mph around a Surrey hills ride.
Always nice having nice kit, but don't expect it to transform your rides too much as you'll likely be a bit let down.
Some good suggestions, I've had lots of different wheels and I'll say that the difference between Mavic Aksiums and Zipp firecrest tubs (1280g) is likely less than 1mph around a Surrey hills ride.
Always nice having nice kit, but don't expect it to transform your rides too much as you'll likely be a bit let down.
I just bought these to replace Fulcrum Racing 7s
http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/WPSHOEMRS81C24/shiman...
Not got them on the bike yet, but the weight saving (on paper) is significant compared to the 7s.
http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/WPSHOEMRS81C24/shiman...
Not got them on the bike yet, but the weight saving (on paper) is significant compared to the 7s.
4000 miles AND last years colours? Dude, seriously, change them fast, else you'd be blackballed at the next coffee stop. Not running "breath taking" deep sections is normally a good enough reason for cycling exile, so you'd been luck up 'til now.
Give me £1500 and I'll find you wheels that'll have you having to retrieve your bike from under several layers of dripping wet clunge (this may be a lie). Otherwise, spend time and money on good tyres, tubes and getting in a good position , and you'll go just as fast for a lot less cash. And, sadly, not as much gash.
Give me £1500 and I'll find you wheels that'll have you having to retrieve your bike from under several layers of dripping wet clunge (this may be a lie). Otherwise, spend time and money on good tyres, tubes and getting in a good position , and you'll go just as fast for a lot less cash. And, sadly, not as much gash.
Edited by Jimbo. on Sunday 6th April 21:17
Edited by Jimbo. on Sunday 6th April 21:18
Edited by Jimbo. on Sunday 6th April 21:18
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Out of interest are you keeping them or looking at selling them on for a new home?