maximum cadence?
Discussion
okgo said:
Yes. 115 is far too high.
Try 90-95.
I thought you were the champion of the "everyone has a different optimum cadence and you shouldn't judge me just because I'm grinding and look even tony martin does it so there" cause?Try 90-95.
I find myself in the mid 90s if I'm cruising but this rises to about 110 if I'm really pushing on. I typically average about 90 including the time that I spend free-wheeling.
I am certainly. Nobody in the pro peloton rides at 115 rpm. 75-95 is where the vast majority will be.
You may well spin up to 110 when 'pushing on', as do I in certain situations, but you won't be riding 110 for 3 hours. Your garmin likely is not including zero's in your average cadence (if it is, turn it off, its a misleading number) so 90 is probably your average, which is fairly normal, as said above.
You may well spin up to 110 when 'pushing on', as do I in certain situations, but you won't be riding 110 for 3 hours. Your garmin likely is not including zero's in your average cadence (if it is, turn it off, its a misleading number) so 90 is probably your average, which is fairly normal, as said above.
Edited by okgo on Tuesday 8th April 17:26
dave0010 said:
ok, so next time I do my little 20 mile loop maybe stick to maximum of 90?
As Will said, I've said on here (and I'm not the voice of reason by any stretch) that everyone is ifferent and less or more isn't better or worse, but 115 is outside of the 'normal' range I think, try and keep it below 100 and see how you go, below 90 might be a bit of a shock to the system, try to average the same sort of speed as your normally would obviously...ChemicalChaos said:
Personally, I'd rather whirl a bit in a headwind or up a hill than struggle to force my legs down in a higher gear
This is my current preference too, although I think it may be hurting instead of helping build strength and speed. I'm just fed up of getting overtook all the time ha Something I noticed on the trainer, maintaining a constant 300 watts I could drop my heart rate by upping my cadence, which is obviously totally anecdotal but suggests that (as a system) I was finding spinning a lower gear slightly faster easier than a larger gear slightly more slowly.
Might be worth setting some alerts in your Garmin/whatever and back-to-back the same ride, aiming for different average cadence for each.
If you have (or could borrow) a Powermeter then this sort of thing is an awful lot easier.
Might be worth setting some alerts in your Garmin/whatever and back-to-back the same ride, aiming for different average cadence for each.
If you have (or could borrow) a Powermeter then this sort of thing is an awful lot easier.
Looking at the data from the track racing I have a max cadence of 135rpm on a gear of 53 x 15 the max cadence would have been at the same time as the max speed, the averages include the slow walk to the start and the roll out so the averages are lower that they would be for the races in isolation.
The juniors on the track are riding 88" gears or 52 x 16 and beat me by peddling faster not using big gears, keep the high cadence and when you gain leg strength you will go faster. If you climb with a high cadence you will slow due to lungs giving in and a few deep breaths you get over it, if on the other hand you climb in a big gear you use leg strength your legs will soon fill with lactic acid the will take longer to recover from, try it yourself to see how you perform and recover on a local climb
Below some data from the track (I am 50 yrs old and riding 2/3/4 track events)
Maximums
Speed (kph): 60.6
Power (watts): 1030
Heartrate (bpm): 190
Cadence (rpm): 135
Temp (C): 21.6
Averages
Speed (kph): 30.6
Power (watts): 116
Heart Rate (bpm): 152
Cadence (rpm): 83
Temp (C): 21.3
The juniors on the track are riding 88" gears or 52 x 16 and beat me by peddling faster not using big gears, keep the high cadence and when you gain leg strength you will go faster. If you climb with a high cadence you will slow due to lungs giving in and a few deep breaths you get over it, if on the other hand you climb in a big gear you use leg strength your legs will soon fill with lactic acid the will take longer to recover from, try it yourself to see how you perform and recover on a local climb
Below some data from the track (I am 50 yrs old and riding 2/3/4 track events)
Maximums
Speed (kph): 60.6
Power (watts): 1030
Heartrate (bpm): 190
Cadence (rpm): 135
Temp (C): 21.6
Averages
Speed (kph): 30.6
Power (watts): 116
Heart Rate (bpm): 152
Cadence (rpm): 83
Temp (C): 21.3
If spinning at 115 rpm is comfortable and doesn't seem forced, then I can't see a problem.
There was a phase when "the cadence" to pedal at was 100 rpm, but thankfully that seems to be past us now.
Pedal at whatever feels natural to you and use the gears appropriately and work on fitness above cadence.
There was a phase when "the cadence" to pedal at was 100 rpm, but thankfully that seems to be past us now.
Pedal at whatever feels natural to you and use the gears appropriately and work on fitness above cadence.
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