How to make phoneco release witheld caller details.

[hairyben]

How can this be done?

Backstory is I was short with a scammer who's taken it upon himself to repeatedly call back and make silly noises.

Plod informed but I'm not hopefull.

I know this weirdos UK based and I know that vodafone (who under duress admitted they) have the number on their system

Changing number and or blocking witheld numbers are not options.

[Retroman]

Vodaphone would only be able to release the details to the police due to data protection act laws.

[Snowboy]

I doubt if they'll give you the number.
But, if you report that he's making you feel threatened then they might have to deal with it.

I'm sure there are laws about harassment that could be used here.

[elanfan]

Looks like you need to make a formal complaint to the Police then!

[ging84]

I wonder if anyone has ever gone down the dpa subject assess request root with this.
The phone company has data on who has been phoning you, and you want it

[Chozza]

ging84 said:

I wonder if anyone has ever gone down the dpa subject assess request root with this.
The phone company has data on who has been phoning you, and you want it

But the caller has privacy rights as well , so this will go nowhere.. The only exceptions being emergency services or requests under RIPA.. ( so Police need to request this information via telcos police liaison department)

[bobthebench]

You can apply to the court to compel incoming phone records to be released if you can show just cause. We get it all the time with mobile phone offences as people try to prove they were not making a call at the time. In Scotland it's called an application for specification of documents. Not sure what it's called south of the border. There are court costs, then a fee to the phone co in the order of £250 too.

[Cat]

If you don't get a positive response from the Police ask them to explain why it is not an offence in terms of s.127(2) of the Communications Act 2003. It doesn't require you to feel threatened or harassed for the offence to be committed.

Cat

[Mojooo]

Given the recent report about Police 'snooping' on so many people by making RIPA requests they might be reluctant to add to their stats for such petty issues!

[Eclassy]

Cat said:

If you don't get a positive response from the Police ask them to explain why it is not an offence in terms of s.127(2) of the Communications Act 2003. It doesn't require you to feel threatened or harassed for the offence to be committed.

Cat

Sadly you will get no joy from the police (at least not in London). Issues like this are so far down the list of their worries.

I am no fan of the police but I am starting to understand what the cuts are doing to the service. Imagine visiting a (soon to be closed down) police station and there is just the front desk staff and an almost rookie PC in the entire building!

Unless it is a murder, an assault where blood is drawn, a revenue generating motoring offence or acting as revenue protection/recovery officers for large retailers, your issue is way down the list.

[DanL]

hairyben said:

How can this be done?

Backstory is I was short with a scammer who's taken it upon himself to repeatedly call back and make silly noises.

Stop answering the phone to withheld numbers? He'll get bored soon enough.

Out of interest, what would you do with the number if you had it?

[Jon1967x]

As a starting point you'll need to keep a log of calls made as part of evidence. How many calls gave you had?

[Vaud]

DanL said:

Stop answering the phone to withheld numbers? He'll get bored soon enough.

Out of interest, what would you do with the number if you had it?

This is what I do - never answer withheld numbers. If it's important, they will leave a message. No family emergency will be calling from a withheld number.

[Engineer1]

Vaud said:

DanL said:

Stop answering the phone to withheld numbers? He'll get bored soon enough.

Out of interest, what would you do with the number if you had it?

This is what I do - never answer withheld numbers. If it's important, they will leave a message. No family emergency will be calling from a withheld number.

Except calls from a hospital ward where the direct dial out may be with held to prevent calls bypassing the correct route.

[10 Pence Short]

Plenty of legislation and routes to deal with it. The question is, how annoying is it and therefore how far are you prepared to go?

[Vaud]

Engineer1 said:

Except calls from a hospital ward where the direct dial out may be with held to prevent calls bypassing the correct route.

And the voicemail will be returned a minute later. I am not a slave to my phone.

[devnull]

Also note that the withheld number itself might also be spoofed.

[Greendubber]

Or an unregistered pay as you go purchased from somewhere like a petrol station/news agents.