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These are the general prices most on-line Bookies are currently offering.
Lewis Hamilton 1/2
Nico Rosberg 2/1
Seb Vettel 6/1
Fernando Alonso 40/1
Daniel Ricciardo 50/1
Kimi Raikkonen 80/1
Jenson Button 100/1
Felipe Massa 125/1
Valtteri Bottas 150/1
200-1 up to 5000-1 others.
Bookies ~ what do they know.....
Lewis Hamilton 1/2
Nico Rosberg 2/1
Seb Vettel 6/1
Fernando Alonso 40/1
Daniel Ricciardo 50/1
Kimi Raikkonen 80/1
Jenson Button 100/1
Felipe Massa 125/1
Valtteri Bottas 150/1
200-1 up to 5000-1 others.
Bookies ~ what do they know.....
longblackcoat said:
Not sure I'd place Alonso ahead of Ricciardo and Button - that Ferrari is an absolute dog, and even Fangio couldn't make it go much faster. I'd also question why Hulkenberg isn't mentioned ahead of the Williams.
But overall, I think the bookies have it about right.
Money talks and the Spanish like a bet.But overall, I think the bookies have it about right.
Fangio was a substantially built individual. Few past drivers of bygone early days would fit in any current F1 cars
Cars now designed for those smaller in stature. Diminutive even! Even BBC's DC and Suzy, when talking to some of the current crop of drivers, appears considerably taller than most of them. The difference is quite striking. Red Bull's DR has the biggest smile of any though ... The thing that puzzles me is why, based on current form of admittedly only three races, Vettel is as short as a skinny 6-1. Do the bookies know something we don't? Obviously money talks in many ways, gets results successfully in F1 than than other areas of endeavour.
With what, sixteen more events to run, could be a whole different ball game in a few months time. That's another thing I like in F1. Currently Hamilton looks a certainty for the WDC this season ... however, a certainty is a very rare thing in competition otherwise the bookies would be paying out already ...
All very interesting for this observer.Vocal Minority said:
Oyster - don't forget it is also a function of the liklihood of the British money favouring Hamilton. So they will put longer odds on Rosberg to try and attract some people over there and spread their risk - as lets face it they're paying out on one of them
There's someone demonstrating an understanding of these things.Vettel not widespreadly popular in the UK. Same with Maldonado. No idea why. OK. I lied about that ...
Hugely different story in the land of the three pointed star.
In some countries 'enthusiasts' chant Monkey noises and throw Bananas at certain drivers.
longblackcoat said:
Not sure I'd place Alonso ahead of Ricciardo and Button - that Ferrari is an absolute dog, and even Fangio couldn't make it go much faster. I'd also question why Hulkenberg isn't mentioned ahead of the Williams.
But overall, I think the bookies have it about right.
I agree. For me Alonso and Raikkonen would be right at the bottom of that list given the relative performance of the cars and Ferrari's proven inability to develop a car throughout a season in recent years. But overall, I think the bookies have it about right.
oyster said:
So is there a website that shows global odds for such events? One that excludes the patriotic bias perhaps? Though I wouldn't be surprised to find the level of gambliong higher in the UK than in Germany.
It's not necessarily a patriotic thing. It is a business thing - its how they can spread their risk sufficiently well to still turn a profit. So whilst Nico is on the surface equally likely as Hamilton to win, they want more money to go there to avoid a crippling payout should Hamilton win. To do that they need to lengthen the odds. All odds are subject to the market they operate within - and how to keep the bookmakers in the black. You need a statisititian or bored actuary to provide you with some impartial 'odds' (they probably wouldn't give you odds, but a liklihood as a percentage).
I suppose the other thing pushing Vetal up is that fact that it seems unlikely that the other Mercedes engined teams will catch the works team, and if anyone can make the Renault engine work it's probably Newey.
The smart money looks to be on Rosberg at the moment though. The Hamilton-Rosberg gap seems far too big.
The smart money looks to be on Rosberg at the moment though. The Hamilton-Rosberg gap seems far too big.
I have a standing policy of not betting on things (I don't do the lottery, even).
Looking at those odds, Ricciardo seems to be the standout, to me at least.
I think Hamilton will win the WDC and Rosberg will be second, but RBR and Ricciardo in particular seems to have better odds than I expected.
It's like the bookies have forgotten how fast RBR develop stuff. A lot of it depends on how fast Renault can get their engines up to speed too.
Looking at those odds, Ricciardo seems to be the standout, to me at least.
I think Hamilton will win the WDC and Rosberg will be second, but RBR and Ricciardo in particular seems to have better odds than I expected.
It's like the bookies have forgotten how fast RBR develop stuff. A lot of it depends on how fast Renault can get their engines up to speed too.
HEADS UP :~
On-line bookies obviously see it as another two horse race and are betting without the two Mercs. So you may find your man is at attractive odds for a "Best of the Rest" bet.
With the weather likely to play an important part tomorrow, I shall wait until about five minutes before the off before considering to have a more serious bet ... or not.
Meantime have had a joke bet on a Dual Forecast at BIG odds. Two drivers to fill the top two podium spots in either order. Rosberg and Vettel ~ the two "slowest Q3 drivers" in their teams. Has been known.
Except for the financially well endowed, Hamilton at a very skinny 4-9 is not worth consideration. So come tomorrow I will look elsewhere for value.
On-line bookies obviously see it as another two horse race and are betting without the two Mercs. So you may find your man is at attractive odds for a "Best of the Rest" bet.
With the weather likely to play an important part tomorrow, I shall wait until about five minutes before the off before considering to have a more serious bet ... or not.
Meantime have had a joke bet on a Dual Forecast at BIG odds. Two drivers to fill the top two podium spots in either order. Rosberg and Vettel ~ the two "slowest Q3 drivers" in their teams. Has been known.
Except for the financially well endowed, Hamilton at a very skinny 4-9 is not worth consideration. So come tomorrow I will look elsewhere for value.
Fantuzzi said:
Hmm, 50/1 on Ric, might be worth ago, could be a good call when Renault sort the engine out...
If I were a betting man (and I'm not), there's nobody else I'd bet on with the prices listed. In the first few races alone he's shown he's got the measure of Vettel, so either Mr. Finger learns to drive better or the lear RBR car will be the Aussie one.CraigyMc said:
If I were a betting man (and I'm not), there's nobody else I'd bet on with the prices listed. In the first few races alone he's shown he's got the measure of Vettel, so either Mr. Finger learns to drive better or the lear RBR car will be the Aussie one.
<smug mode engaged>I usually put a few pennies on the season as a whole. Over the past 2-3 seasons (apart from 2013) this has paid out quite well This year is shaping up quite well as well, especially as the pre-season favourite seems to be coming unstuck.. If his form can continue, I should be able to cover it all off and sit on a few quid guaranteed profit.
This year is shaping up quite well as well, especially as the pre-season favourite seems to be coming unstuck.. If his form can continue, I should be able to cover it all off and sit on a few quid guaranteed profit.Gassing Station | Formula 1 | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff