LA would like to barcode my recycle bin?
LA would like to barcode my recycle bin?
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Terminator X

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20,540 posts

233 months

Friday 11th April 2014
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Anyone else had this recently? There is an incentive for me apparently in that when I "recycle correctly" I get some points to spend on stuff etc. What do you think the angle is for the LA as I'm quite sure it's not being done for my benefit?

Cheers, TX.

bmthnick1981

5,320 posts

245 months

Friday 11th April 2014
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It's so they can fine you if you don't recycle correctly. I would deny the request if possible!

hedgefinder

3,418 posts

199 months

Friday 11th April 2014
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and if you dont recycle properly, they will fine you... thats whats coming..

cb31

1,455 posts

165 months

Friday 11th April 2014
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Obviously fines are what they hope to impose, however I've often wondered what it would achieve. A person who doesn't care less wouldn't modify their behaviour and a reasonable person would probably take offence. Upon getting a fine I would just stop helping the council out by recycling and dump it all in the normal bin, thereby harming the council. I don't get it.

Riley Blue

23,205 posts

255 months

Friday 11th April 2014
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I don't see a problem. Recycling makes sense, doesn't it?

Siscar

6,315 posts

158 months

Friday 11th April 2014
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cb31 said:
Obviously fines are what they hope to impose, however I've often wondered what it would achieve. A person who doesn't care less wouldn't modify their behaviour and a reasonable person would probably take offence. Upon getting a fine I would just stop helping the council out by recycling and dump it all in the normal bin, thereby harming the council. I don't get it.
Well it's not obvious unless you have the tin foil hat on, there are lots of reasons why fining doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Terminator X

Original Poster:

20,540 posts

233 months

Friday 11th April 2014
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Riley Blue said:
I don't see a problem. Recycling makes sense, doesn't it?
We do recycle and the bin is collected every other week. Barcode though spin

TX.

Lucas Ayde

4,155 posts

197 months

Friday 11th April 2014
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hedgefinder said:
and if you dont recycle properly, they will fine you... thats whats coming..
Disposing of waste properly/safely takes money and unfortunately a 'one size fits all' approach of simply taking away anything put in the bins often gets abused by some who just chuck away large amounts of stuff that could be easily recycled because it doesn't cost them any extra. Well, not directly - everyone's bills will go up.

I doubt people would stand for paying an averaged-out electricity bill so it makes sense to move towards a scheme that charges people who produce more waste, more money.

The suspicion will be though that this will just be used as a way to screw the public for more money, generally. Given the way that councils work I think that voters should bear this in mind and keep a close eye on how the scheme is implemented and what happens to council spending and tax. But wait - look what Miley Cyrus is up to and who will win the big football match this weekend .... errrr, what were we talking about again?

Krikkit

27,938 posts

210 months

Friday 11th April 2014
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Lucas Ayde said:
The suspicion will be though that this will just be used as a way to screw the public for more money, generally. Given the way that councils work I think that voters should bear this in mind and keep a close eye on how the scheme is implemented and what happens to council spending and tax. But wait - look what Miley Cyrus is up to and who will win the big football match this weekend .... errrr, what were we talking about again?
hehe

Dog Star

17,550 posts

197 months

Friday 11th April 2014
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Add a subtle extra line to the barcode of your, and as many of your neighbours as you can manage without being seen, bins.

I'm keeping a close eye on this type of development; similarly any "chip" appearing under the top lip of my bins will be "disappearing" pronto or might spend a few seconds in the microwave before being replaced. I pay an awful lot of money for a pretty minimal set of services. Charging for waste by the kilo is misguided - it will lead to epedemic levels of fly tipping. Just you see.

Ozone

3,103 posts

216 months

Friday 11th April 2014
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Tx, we have bin Nazis, they won't empty our recycle wheelie bin if there is a plastic bag in it even though they are recyclable. The bar code would just reinforce my view of them. It's another step to weighing your bin and billing accordingly, the bin lorries are getting the facilities and they will probably scan the bin at the same time.

I can see hedgerows filling up with waste a lot more in future and it will cost even more to clear up.

edit* What Dog Star said ^^^

Edited by Ozone on Friday 11th April 16:07

55palfers

6,366 posts

193 months

Friday 11th April 2014
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Tell then to spend the money on a) filling potholes, b) respite day care centres c) reducing council tax, etc.

Jasandjules

72,584 posts

258 months

Friday 11th April 2014
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Terminator X said:
Anyone else had this recently? There is an incentive for me apparently in that when I "recycle correctly" I get some points to spend on stuff etc. What do you think the angle is for the LA as I'm quite sure it's not being done for my benefit?

Cheers, TX.
I work on the basis that the state does nothing for my benefit.

Riley Blue

23,205 posts

255 months

Friday 11th April 2014
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Terminator X said:
Riley Blue said:
I don't see a problem. Recycling makes sense, doesn't it?
We do recycle and the bin is collected every other week. Barcode though spin

TX.
I imagine it's a quick way of identifying individual bins; bin is scanned as it's lifted into the lorry.

Dogwatch

6,381 posts

251 months

Friday 11th April 2014
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Think I'd be more worried if they wanted to barcode my 'landfill' bin. That's the one which is going to cost them Winky's/Wee George's Landfill Tax. They might get some income to offset the cost of the recycling - and Councils love income!

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

155 months

Friday 11th April 2014
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Ozone said:
It's another step to weighing your bin and billing accordingly
Seems fair to me.

Siscar

6,315 posts

158 months

Friday 11th April 2014
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TooMany2cvs said:
Ozone said:
It's another step to weighing your bin and billing accordingly
Seems fair to me.
So you pay for what you use? Sounds good. A bit like water meters, should be compulsory.

steveo3002

11,201 posts

203 months

Friday 11th April 2014
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imagine all the fuss , matey will go to work and put his bin out , next door will hoof all thier stuff in his bin

if that doesnt work there will be fly tipping and bonfires instead

Edited by steveo3002 on Friday 11th April 18:07

Terminator X

Original Poster:

20,540 posts

233 months

Friday 11th April 2014
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Siscar said:
So you pay for what you use? Sounds good. A bit like water meters, should be compulsory.
We used to put our rubbish in one bin collected every week. Then we were told to seperate it both collected once a week. Then it was each bin every other week. Now you say they may charge us to collect recycling, wtf?!

TX.

mobile chicane22

549 posts

217 months

Friday 11th April 2014
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I have a 40 gallon oil drum which I use as a waste burner.

If its burns it goes in gets torched late at night then the cold ashes are put in the bin.

Our recycling lot will turf out screen wash bottles ( empty I hasten to add ) from the plastic bottle recycling tub.

I've given up trying to reason with them so I just burn stuff or chuck it in next doors bin ( she works away a lot and produces minimal waste so I get extra bin space and she gets her bin put out by me when she's not in )

any barcode or chip will soon be obliterated judging by the state of our bin after the veola monkeys have finished with it.