drunk in charge of cycle
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Blacknblue

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32 posts

276 months

Monday 29th November 2004
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I seem to recall some time ago a story of somebody who was banned from driving due to being drunk on a bicycle. Was this an urban myth, or did it happen.

Only thing I've found so far is this from Avon & Somerset police web site "Riding a pedal cycle while under the influence of alcohol or drugs is an offence if the rider is incapable of controlling the cycle. There is no offence of being in charge of a cycle while under the influence of alcohol or drugs but the Licensing act 1912 has an offence of being drunk in charge of a carriage, and a bicycle is a carriage!"

evolution666

310 posts

264 months

Monday 29th November 2004
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I wolud imagine it was an offence, i think you can be done for breaking the speed limt..


Any way, the offence for drink driving i think is DRUNK AND IN CHARGE OF A VEHICLE.


If your drunk in the back of your car asleep, i think the same applies....



may be wrong, im sure someone will correct me



Jon

Plotloss

67,280 posts

299 months

Monday 29th November 2004
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I think you can be drunk in charge of anything with wheels.

Oh and a horse...

donteatpeople

880 posts

303 months

Monday 29th November 2004
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But if i was caught drunk on a bike (or any other offence) would i have points put on my licence?

Davel

8,982 posts

287 months

Monday 29th November 2004
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Thought, years ago, £15 fine but buggered if i can remember where I heard that.

I was also told that you couldn't be done for being drunk in charge of a horse, apparently because a horse has a mind of its own.

This could all be bollox so don't blame me etc.....

loaf

850 posts

290 months

Monday 29th November 2004
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evolution666 said:
I wolud imagine it was an offence, i think you can be done for breaking the speed limt..




IIRC the actual offence is 'furious and wanton cycling' and is an offence under an Act that's well over 100 years old.

jacobyte

4,768 posts

271 months

Monday 29th November 2004
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A friend's dad was done for speeding in Oxford on his bicycle. It was about 40 years ago; can't remember the penalty.

Davel

8,982 posts

287 months

Monday 29th November 2004
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2 days in the stocks

Since replaced by a gatso scamera...

love machine

7,609 posts

264 months

Monday 29th November 2004
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But you can get shitfaced and go and hoon it around in a speedboat.

Dwight VanDriver

6,583 posts

273 months

Monday 29th November 2004
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Nope, you cannot be done for "speeding' on a pedal cycle because it is not 'a motor vehicle.'

But as stated can be done for wanton furious riding.

S 30 (1) RTA 88 outlines the offence of riding a cycle on a road or other public place, whilst unfit to ride through drink/drugs to such an extent as to be incapable of having proper control. No specific power of arrest.

No breath test procedure involved. Opinion in BAGS (Breath, Action, Gait and Speech).

But under Licensing Act 1872 S 12 - being in charge of
any carriage (includes pedal cycle)on any public
Highway or public place is an offence with POA.

Power of a Court to disqualify from driving a motor vehicle exists on conviction for ANY offence by Court so authorised by Sec of State. (S 146 Power of Criminal Courts (Sentencing) Act 2000.)

DVD

gavyn

105 posts

276 months

Monday 29th November 2004
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Davel said:
2 days in the stocks

Since replaced by a gatso scamera...


2 days in a gatso scamera?! I guess the punishment is how they fit you in?

v15ben

16,222 posts

270 months

Monday 29th November 2004
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This did actually happen to a student here at Nottingham uni!!!
Don't think he got any points or fines, just told not to cycle to the pub again!

(or the guy who was stopped on a dark road with no lighting, riding a bike in all black clothing, no lights or reflectors carrying 2 bags of shopping! Priceless!)

spicy

246 posts

265 months

Monday 29th November 2004
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With regards to speeding on a bike I thought this was taking it too far. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/dorset/3619372.stm



>> Edited by spicy on Monday 29th November 17:29

v15ben

16,222 posts

270 months

Monday 29th November 2004
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spicy said:
With regards to speeding on a bike I thought this was taking it too far. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/dorset/3619372.stm



>> Edited by spicy on Monday 29th November 17:29


That would be funny if it wasn't true! Total madness!

police in article said:

We do want to encourage cyclists to use the seafront


By giving them speeding fines - yeh good one!!
I sense deja vu here...

silverback mike

11,293 posts

282 months

Monday 29th November 2004
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loaf said:

evolution666 said:
I wolud imagine it was an offence, i think you can be done for breaking the speed limt..





IIRC the actual offence is 'furious and wanton cycling' and is an offence under an Act that's well over 100 years old.



Yes, that's it, a reportable offence.

If cycling furiously and wantonly, please let me know what you look like, I still haven't sussed it.

Flat in Fifth

48,744 posts

280 months

Monday 29th November 2004
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surely only trollops can cycle wantonly, and it will be a bit uncomfortable for their customers......

OK, hat, coat, door

evolution666

310 posts

264 months

Monday 29th November 2004
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love machine said:
But you can get shitfaced and go and hoon it around in a speedboat.


Sorry mate but no you cant

The norfolk broards have river police with breath testing kits on them and you can most certailny be done for that one


Jon

LongQ

13,864 posts

262 months

Monday 29th November 2004
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silverback mike said:

If cycling furiously and wantonly, please let me know what you look like, I still haven't sussed it.


The pedalling brigade got quite worked up a few years ago about 'serious' cyclist on a training run through the centre of Cambridge (yep, cars-out-Cambridge) being stopped and done for furious cycling.

It was pointed out that he was only doing 25mph so it seemed unfair. However, it was pub closing time and he was, allegedly, weaving amongst the departing drinkers without slowing down.

Good practice for a 2 wheel slalom I suppose ...

iansull

1,940 posts

275 months

Monday 29th November 2004
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"i'm arresting you for cycling furiously"



classic!!almost tempted to try it just to hear that immortal line!

Dibble

13,276 posts

269 months

Monday 29th November 2004
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There's some belting offences still on the statute books under s28 Town and Police Clauses Act 1847...