How Much More Can I Take
How Much More Can I Take
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flashheart

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581 posts

271 months

Monday 29th November 2004
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Two days ago....neither windows would go up. Reset controller many times, alarm on, alarm off, doors opened, doors closed - had to leave windows open, alarm off overnight.

One day ago....got in car and my window now works, pax stuck 1" open. One hour down M1 later, stop at services, coffee, and pax window closed. Didn't touch it again. Get to destination door switch does not work. Open manually, get out & close door (big mistake). Door will not open from outside. Get in the secret way (difficult with no tools but did it eventually) my window motors down but not up - now 6" open. Door switch still not working. Try resetting, alarm on/off etc, etc and 20 min later, for no apparent reason, manage to close window from inside, close door, set alarm and go to work.

What on earth (could that be an appropriate word?) is going on because I am getting a little fed up with this?

Tripps

5,814 posts

301 months

Monday 29th November 2004
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flashheart said:
One day ago....got in car and my window now works, pax stuck 1" open. One hour down M1 later, stop at services, coffee, and pax window closed. Didn't touch it again. Get to destination door switch does not work. Open manually, get out & close door (big mistake). Door will not open from outside. Get in the secret way (difficult with no tools but did it eventually) my window motors down but not up - now 6" open. Door switch still not working. Try resetting, alarm on/off etc, etc and 20 min later, for no apparent reason, manage to close window from inside, close door, set alarm and go to work.
Had something similar happen a few weeks back, with my poor daughter stuck inside crying. Thankfully someone had a long implement and both windows were open so we dropped the window further and used the manual door release.

I noticed something wrong when the passenger window wouldn't go up fully, thought its was the rubbers and drove off to let it get warmer, went to stop and try it again and realised that both electronic door releases had stopped working, so got to my destination (thankfully with a dozen TVRs and knowledgeable owners!) opened my door manually and shut it behind me automatically At that point neither door or the boot would release.

It has since been OK but I'm still worried the Gremlin might return...

flashheart

Original Poster:

581 posts

271 months

Monday 29th November 2004
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This is exactly what I am talking about Rob. It played up about 6 weeks ago, out with the wife, she wound her window down and it would not go all the way back up. An hour later it was fine. It has happened on and off for about a year now but has always fixed itself and never been that inconvenient, until yesterday. Am thinking of ditching the electric windows and putting handles on, at least it would solve one problem!

andy4200

5,125 posts

302 months

Monday 29th November 2004
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It's probably worth taking the inside door panel off and checking all the connectors. However, both doors suggest something else.

Can you open up the door module (is that what it's called)? A few people have said that the connections on these modules burn out and end up rebuilding the connectors or soldering direct.

Andy

55jnj

555 posts

313 months

Monday 29th November 2004
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"Calm Down Dear ...... It's only a TVR"

With love
Michael Winner

flashheart

Original Poster:

581 posts

271 months

Monday 29th November 2004
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Good idea Andy. I have looked at the box but it has been sealed in a few places by melting the plastic a little. I will open it, carefully, and have a look inside although it was a new controller a year ago. Might be worth having another look at the door connections although I cleaned them all earlier this year. Aaaaarrrrgggghhhhh

J_S_G

6,177 posts

279 months

Monday 29th November 2004
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flashheart said:
Am thinking of ditching the electric windows and putting handles on, at least it would solve one problem!

But would create another of how do you either:
a) shut the door with the window up
b) wind up the window if you've shut the door with it down (as you should)

SXS 

2,068 posts

269 months

Monday 29th November 2004
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I've got a fix for this - its called the 'Ash Electrics Fix'...

Pull out all the controllers from the boot including the alarm system - throw them away. Pull out all the wiring - throw them away.

Go to a Renault repair-garage - and ask them to wire in a full system with all the bits... and a Renault factory alarm system.

Done!

PS. This is not a joke! Will cost you around £1500 for the lot. The adventurous amongst you can pick up a top Cobra system and wire it in. But I prefer the Renault route. I'll be doing it at some point - it will be the last thing to do, to totally throw away TVR's shite Maplin amateur project black-boxes with velcro and shit wiring!

jmh99

169 posts

275 months

Monday 29th November 2004
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Flashheart, although not as bad, I did have a lot of problems with doors and windows on my Cerb soon after I got it. I did 3 things and the problem has not returned.
1)cleaned all the door connectors, sprayed WD40 and then wrapped and tied in small freezer bags.
2)garaged the car (previuosly it was under a cover). Covers seem to trap condensation.
3)looked for every area where seals had perished and resealed with silicon.

Not sure which one cured it but I think 2)had the biggest effect - although not much help if you don't have a garage. Hope it helps.

John

carl_w

10,730 posts

287 months

Monday 29th November 2004
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You're proposing replacing the wiring with that great oxymoron "French Electrics"?

jmh99

169 posts

275 months

Monday 29th November 2004
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understand the idea but why Renault ?

SXS 

2,068 posts

269 months

Monday 29th November 2004
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carl_w said:
You're proposing replacing the wiring with that great oxymoron "French Electrics"?


Sounds bad I know - but the new Renault setups are well cheap and rock solid and will plug n play nicely... well it was recommended, as its been done to a few other exotics... and it works! A+!

I tell you what - when I get round to getting it done, I'll sell the plans to Joolz who can offer it as a blackbox upgrade so that no one has to know its a renault!

Tam Lin

694 posts

282 months

Monday 29th November 2004
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[quote=SXS ]
Sounds bad I know - but the new Renault setups are well cheap and rock solid and will plug n play nicely... well it was recommended, as its been done to a few other exotics... and it works! A+!

I tell you what - when I get round to getting it done, I'll sell the plans to Joolz who can offer it as a blackbox upgrade so that no one has to know its a renault! [/quote]

I like it. Sounds like a must have. The only thing is add some decent wiring/loom for the front headlights into the kit, please...I think I'm driving mostly from memory at night

pilmar

135 posts

282 months

Monday 29th November 2004
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I had a similar problem and it was the little proximity switch at the bottom of the door. Replaced it and not had a problem since!

froggie

896 posts

271 months

Monday 29th November 2004
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witch reno system u talking about? must be the new swipe card one is it?
ive had a bit to do with megane coupas and have had lotsa mal functions with both the early +late systems,aspecialy forgetting codes,,calling some one from wom work out with a wrecka in the early hrs,
even surgested haveing a sacrificial burning on the forcort
it is so anoying opening it with a key(thats why i dont lock it now)and having to tap out a code on the sentral locking sw.,bi passing the flashing mork&mindicators,Exept wen in normal l,r & hazard use witch looses the int light and rear wiper.
ive been all over the harness and have u seen a fuze box on the mother?not to mentinn the rest of the fetus,if they cant fix tvr one they dont wanna be going down the rong side of the road.
i wood be greatful for a wiring dia of boath renno&a full cerby one if any one wood be sooooooo kind .:ranting

trooper1212

9,457 posts

281 months

Tuesday 30th November 2004
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Tam Lin said:


I like it. Sounds like a must have. The only thing is add some decent wiring/loom for the front headlights into the kit, please...I think I'm driving mostly from memory at night


I don't want the headlight upgrade as I prefer the look of the single headlights, but they really are awful.
I'd be interested if anybody has a solution.

Tam Lin

694 posts

282 months

Tuesday 30th November 2004
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trooper1212 said:
I don't want the headlight upgrade as I prefer the look of the single headlights, but they really are awful.
I'd be interested if anybody has a solution.


Sorry for confusion: I wasn't referring to twin/tripple SMART roadster style lights, but the www.mod-wise.com brighter light upgrade with the Philips Vision bulbs. If I've understood the plot, this means using existing light loom for one side only, and putting a new link from the starter feed to the other side: more amps, less frazzled wiring, and subsequently more light.

Looks like a DIY kit, but I think I would get these fitted profesionally. Anyone had this done?

BigBazza

2,135 posts

276 months

Tuesday 30th November 2004
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In reply to the original post, have you tried resetting the actual ECU?
Shane @ SFR reset mine after my Battery went dud and had similar sypmtoms with doors/windows.
Its an easy one to try and result if it works!
Oh what i'd give to have problems with my doors and windows.

c2rbr

25 posts

264 months

Tuesday 30th November 2004
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I'm sure you've checked, but when Fuse 7 went it first started with very similar problems to those you've discussed. Keep smiling.

flashheart

Original Poster:

581 posts

271 months

Tuesday 30th November 2004
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I thought fuse 7 caused lots of instrument snags as well but there is no harm in trying, thanks Simon. As for BigBazza, by 'resetting' I take it you mean pulling the 4 plugs out of the back of the door/window controller, having a cup of tea and then plugging them back in. If so I have tried this several times...to no avail.