Replace oil cooler after engine failure?
Replace oil cooler after engine failure?
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slickshoot

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26 posts

217 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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So I've dropped a valve & things have gotten a bit messy. With the engine problem aside, do you reckon it'd be best to replace my oil cooler or would a good old flush out be sufficient do you reckon? I just don't want a possible risk of any metal being left in the system so if there's any doubt I'd happily replace but everything costs so only wanna do it if I need to.

jamieduff1981

8,092 posts

169 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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If it were me personally I'd replace it. Maaayyyyybbbbbeeee unless it's on the return side in which case the filter should catch it before it gets to any galleries.

For peace of mind though, get rid. Oil coolers are cheaper than risking another engine.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

275 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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Why would you replace the oil cooler?? Do you have an oil temp gauge?

jamieduff1981

8,092 posts

169 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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Ozzie Osmond said:
Why would you replace the oil cooler?? Do you have an oil temp gauge?
Dropped valve - holed piston - metal in the sump oil - metal pumped through the oil cooler

Ray Luxury-Yacht

8,918 posts

245 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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Definitely, definitely - and once again, definitely.

I rebuilt a mates race car engine last year after it went pop, and we replaced the oil cooler on that.

I filled the old cooler with a bit of petrol, swished it around, and swarf that a machine shop would have been proud of came out. But we didn't want to even trust cleaning it out. Doesn't take much to destroy a rebuilt engine.

For the sake of £150, it's good insurance.

And don't forget to replace the oil pickup strainer too obviously!


Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

275 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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jamieduff1981 said:
Ozzie Osmond said:
Why would you replace the oil cooler?? Do you have an oil temp gauge?
Dropped valve - holed piston - metal in the sump oil - metal pumped through the oil cooler
That makes sense. smile

jamieduff1981

8,092 posts

169 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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smile

Did similar to Ray there with a Subaru EA81 derived aero engine with a big end knock. It had been converted to dry sump lubrication and the whole oil system was laced with particles. We could see inside the header tank well enough to be confident to reuse it - a pricey aluminium thing. The scavenge pump was ruined, the non-return valves jammed up with particles and solvents came out of the oil cooler like metallic paint so it was binned. The supply pump was buggered too actually thinking back.

Auntieroll

543 posts

213 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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If its your A series racer then there will be lots of sharp steel shards from the gearbox which would worry me more than relatively soft aluminium alloy which will probably be a lot larger than the steel particles. The sump plug magnet will probably catch most of the steel anyway.
In an ideal world, or one where the gears were not lubricated by the engine oil (crappy design by any standards )the engine should be completely stripped, oilway plugs pulled, block, crank, thoroughly cleaned, all oil lines and cooler replaced.
Personally I would be tempted to chance it, back flush the cooler and very carefully wash and blow everything else out.
(and I have been known to stick a screwdriver through potentially contaminated coolers to stop any one else using them and ruining their engines!)
Your choice

slickshoot

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26 posts

217 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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OK thank you all very much for you thoughts, on reflection I think I'm going to replace the cooler, yes it's a cost but I know how much yet another rebuilt engine would cost so for peace of mind it's getting binned.