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3,795 posts

190 months

Friday 25th April 2014
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There is an avert in my F1 Racing mag`about building Senna`s McLaren Honda MP4/4 1:8 kit via a monthly mag`. It certainly looks very high quality stuff BUT £40 a month for twenty months,that`s £800 !!
I`m just interested to hear from regular model buffs regarding this company.Has any one spent two years and £800 building one of their kits and are they worth the money??
www.sennasmclaren.co.uk

Eric Mc

124,754 posts

288 months

Friday 25th April 2014
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No.

OllieC

3,816 posts

237 months

Friday 25th April 2014
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what would a similar quality (appreciate this is hard to determine) cost off the shelf, and as a kit?

OldSpice

353 posts

160 months

Friday 25th April 2014
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Isn't this always the case with their magazines? Nice enough kits but massive costs.

dr_gn

16,723 posts

207 months

Friday 25th April 2014
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From what I've seen, the level of detail of the MP4/4 is rubbish for that scale and cost. You get little more detail than in the standard Tamiya 1:20 version, and way, way less than if you add the Top Studio detail kit to the Tamiya base kit.

Way overpriced IMO.

Edited by dr_gn on Friday 25th April 15:57

BlueMR2

9,255 posts

225 months

Friday 25th April 2014
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You have to hope they get enough sales to sell all the issues as well.

fatboy69

9,424 posts

210 months

Saturday 26th April 2014
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I saw that advertised - I did a double take as couldn't see how the kit could be worth £800. Ridiculous amount of money.

The Tamiya 1/20 scale MP4/4 however is a wonderful little model.

Costs around £45 - it's a no brainier. The De Agostini model just isn't worth it IMO.

The Tamiya 1/12 scale MP4/6 is something else. It's awesome. I

i bought one many many years ago - it is still in its original box with all of the bags sealed. And mine has a full set of Marlboro decals that I bought when I decided to build the kit.

Haven't yet built it yet as I don't think that modelling skills these days will do the model justice.

Maybe one day but not yet.


BULLITT Rich

550 posts

239 months

Saturday 26th April 2014
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The Eaglemoss James Bond Aston Martin DB5 appears to have been popular but then that does have a lot of features too. I'm currently collecting the Eaglemoss Nissan GTR, which works out at roughly £600 but same as all of these, it's 1/8 scale and has a lot of features too.

Your closest is Pocher really who appear to be the only ones producing 1/8 kits, though how much do these cost? I remember one guy on a model building forum I'm on spent near enough £2000 on the Pocher F40 kit and the detailing kit! Fantastic build as well, but £2000?!

dr_gn

16,723 posts

207 months

Saturday 26th April 2014
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fatboy69 said:
I saw that advertised - I did a double take as couldn't see how the kit could be worth £800. Ridiculous amount of money.

The Tamiya 1/20 scale MP4/4 however is a wonderful little model.

Costs around £45 - it's a no brainier. The De Agostini model just isn't worth it IMO.

The Tamiya 1/12 scale MP4/6 is something else. It's awesome. I

i bought one many many years ago - it is still in its original box with all of the bags sealed. And mine has a full set of Marlboro decals that I bought when I decided to build the kit.

Haven't yet built it yet as I don't think that modelling skills these days will do the model justice.

Maybe one day but not yet.
The Tamiya 1:20 MP4/4 isn't £45. You can pick one up on Ebay for about £15. Hannants have them at about £25.

With the new versions you'll need a decal set too at about £8, because most sponsor logos are no longer included. If you want the ultimate, then the Top Studio detail kit is about another £100:

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=4&a...

The MP4/6 (like the Ferrari and Williams in the same series) is about £100 on EBay. I've bought the Formula Perfect detail kits for all of these, and that adds about £100, plus decals at about £10 per set:

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=4&a...

I'd estimate to build a decent 1:12 Tamiya F1 will cost me about £400 each by the time I've added some RB Motion parts and carbon decals etc.

Having said that, at either 1:20 or 1:12, the Tamiya + detail kit options require infinitely more modelling skill to complete than the DeAgostini version, which when built as per instructions would be more like like assembling a Lego model in comarison. Either way, £800 is ridiculous for a model with such poor levels of detail.

fatboy69

9,424 posts

210 months

Saturday 26th April 2014
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My local model shop has in stock a re-release of the MP4/4 - in the dull box that they are now supplied in.

It's on sale for £43.99 which, they say, is the MRRP.

Saying that they also have a Williams FW14 for £149.99!!!!!

dr_gn

16,723 posts

207 months

Saturday 26th April 2014
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fatboy69 said:
My local model shop has in stock a re-release of the MP4/4 - in the dull box that they are now supplied in.

It's on sale for £43.99 which, they say, is the MRRP.

Saying that they also have a Williams FW14 for £149.99!!!!!
I doubt your local shop will be around much longer! IIRC I got the same plain box version for £15 and my 1:12 FW14B cost £90 (collected locally) from EBay - all sealed parts.

fatboy69

9,424 posts

210 months

Saturday 26th April 2014
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They have been going for in excess of 20 years - I don't buy from the simpy because my model collecting days are over (almost) for the time being - indeed my collection of models is currently 'on the market'.

They might be expensive however they dont keep stock in the shelves for too long. They have zero competition in the area so they can, & they do, charge what what they want.

As an example - the recently launched Giant Warplanes collection.

Sells in WHSmith for £7.99 each issue.













My local model shop sells the models, without the accompanying magazine, for £14.99 each........

Same goes for the Helicopter model collection. They sell the helicopters for double what they can bought for in WHSmith.

They somehow manage to sell everything they out in the shelves.

dr_gn

16,723 posts

207 months

Saturday 26th April 2014
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Ah well if people are daft enough to pay like that it's their problem!

fatboy69

9,424 posts

210 months

Sunday 27th April 2014
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Exactly. I don't buy from them - just browse, smile at the prices & bugger off!!!!

TheHighlander

1,604 posts

221 months

Tuesday 29th April 2014
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I really have thought about doing this.....Stupid I know but I just fancy building it.

fatboy69

9,424 posts

210 months

Tuesday 29th April 2014
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It is tempting simply because of the car & the driver.

However.

£800...........




TheHighlander

1,604 posts

221 months

Tuesday 29th April 2014
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fatboy69 said:
It is tempting simply because of the car & the driver.

However.

£800...........
My thoughts exactly.

I love Senna and would like a model like that and of that size but as you say the price is rather "high".

Zad

12,944 posts

259 months

Wednesday 30th April 2014
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Every now and then I see their part-works and am tempted. Then I realise that £800 would either buy a decent 2nd hand lathe and mill, or an interesting piece of real classic machinery that I could mess around with. Good models, but ... ouch.