which has more authority?
which has more authority?
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silverfoxcc

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8,395 posts

174 months

Friday 25th April 2014
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This happened to me this morning
lollipop lady halting traffic by walking out and using pole, once kids are safely across, she indicates to traffic to proceed, which we do.
Later on a lollipop man is sited at a light controlled crossing
He pressed the button, light went red, he walked out with the pole, and got the kids across, once safely on pavement he also indicates for traffic to proceed, which we do, But the light is still red!!!
I think the light still controls the crossing, but the mindset of the drivers appeared to have blanked them out, and followed the instruction of the loliipop as they would do 95% of the time.
Any thoughts?

Magic919

14,480 posts

230 months

Friday 25th April 2014
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Sounds like common sense prevails.

iva cosworth

44,044 posts

192 months

Friday 25th April 2014
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Lollipop person has no right to wave you through a red light....nono

slipstream 1985

13,755 posts

208 months

Friday 25th April 2014
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erm, wait for the lights. jesus did it really need to be asked. only time it can be overruled is a police officer directing traffic or a traffic warden elevated to that level.

kambites

71,456 posts

250 months

Friday 25th April 2014
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Whichever is telling you to stop at the time has authority - going through red lights is illegal, so is running over lollipop men.

Rich_W

12,548 posts

241 months

Friday 25th April 2014
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Why do they need a lollipop man where there's already a crossing?

Surely it's meant for roads where it's very busy and difficult to cross. confused

Vaud

59,344 posts

184 months

Friday 25th April 2014
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Rich_W said:
Why do they need a lollipop man where there's already a crossing?

Surely it's meant for roads where it's very busy and difficult to cross. confused
Because kids might observe a little green man. Drivers might not. It's a good presence to have at a busy crossing.

Engineer1

10,486 posts

238 months

Friday 25th April 2014
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Rich_W said:
Why do they need a lollipop man where there's already a crossing?

Surely it's meant for roads where it's very busy and difficult to cross. confused
Because small children may not wait for the lights so a lollypop man can prevent the kids running out

Troubleatmill

10,210 posts

188 months

Friday 25th April 2014
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Vaud said:
Rich_W said:
Why do they need a lollipop man where there's already a crossing?

Surely it's meant for roads where it's very busy and difficult to cross. confused
Because kids might observe a little green man. Drivers might not. It's a good presence to have at a busy crossing.
Because kids might not observe a little red man. (fixed that for you )

kowalski655

15,215 posts

172 months

Friday 25th April 2014
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I think they put lollipop folk on light controlled crossings as so many people use them they dawdle & are still on the road on amber,so they move the kids along & stop drivers barging through

As to authority to waive you through,from other threads in SP&L its said an emergency vehicle on "blues & twos" cant give you exemption to go through so theres no way an OAP with a stick can

MarkK

667 posts

308 months

Friday 25th April 2014
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Rich_W said:
Why do they need a lollipop man where there's already a crossing?

Surely it's meant for roads where it's very busy and difficult to cross. confused
Presumably it's because kids aren't always paying attention and may not use the crossing properly (if at all). Having adult supervision may still be a good idea even if the lollipop man uses the crossing.

kowalski655

15,215 posts

172 months

Friday 25th April 2014
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Some adults need the supervision too!

Vaud

59,344 posts

184 months

Friday 25th April 2014
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Troubleatmill said:
Because kids might not observe a little red man. (fixed that for you )
It's both... wink

Fixed that for you.