So I have a job offer - but...
So I have a job offer - but...
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anonymous-user

83 months

Monday 28th April 2014
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Have you done all the figures, you know will be more like £25K a year worse off not £15K as you won't be able to mitigate your tax and NI liabilities anything like as effectively when you are PAYE.

This is the figure I would be pointing out to them in negotiations.

Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 28th April 10:26

Yell_M3

389 posts

229 months

Monday 28th April 2014
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I'd never leave contracting for perm role but that's another matter! If 70k is what you want stick to your guns. If they want you they'll pay it.

GT03ROB

14,022 posts

250 months

Monday 28th April 2014
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It's like any negotiation. Who blinks first.

If you stick for £67.5 & they withdraw the offer, what will you think? If you are happy to walk away at £67.5 then stick at it. Generally, if you are working through an agent there is not much room to horse trade on salary. Why don't you talk to them direct & make your case?

Campo

12,584 posts

226 months

Monday 28th April 2014
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You need to be firm with the agent. Just tell them you want the £67.5k or you'll leave it.

I get the feeling they think you're a soft touch already by instantly drooping to £67.5k just after one mumbling call from the agent. I thought you had told them your salary expectation for the role was £70k?

Just remember that drop of £2.5k will be compounded each time you get a pay rise if you get a pay rise, could cost a lot if you stay with the firm long term.

964Cup

1,626 posts

266 months

Monday 28th April 2014
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Remember that the agent is working for them, not for you, however it's presented. Yes, the agent has an interest in increasing your salary, as it increases their fee, but the marginal gain for them on an additional £5k is small. If you think you're worth the money and the market will bear it, stand your ground.

irocfan

48,974 posts

219 months

Monday 28th April 2014
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think of it like this - they're trying to browbeat/bully you before you even start, is this really the sort of company you want to work for?

prand

6,244 posts

225 months

Monday 28th April 2014
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Also, it should be a bit more than just salary alone. What are this company proposing for bonus, share scheme, pension, car allowance, paid holidays, healthcare, flexible benefits etc that would make up a decent package for you?

I could never look at salary alone unless it was huuuuuge without considering the above, because these could add 10-20k to a basic salary in extra payments and benefits. It would allow you to absorb a drop a few grand in salary if you know it may be made up elsewhere. Plus, don't forget that as an employee, the benefits aren't always financial, sometimes more lifestyle or company culture related, so it's hard to put an absolute value on them. Many contractors I know forget this as they only ever focus on the day rate and 260 working days a year.