It was all going so well....
It was all going so well....
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Hackney

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7,426 posts

237 months

Tuesday 29th April 2014
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I made a couple of changes to the ad I have in the PH classifieds this morning and immediately had two enquiries.

This response:
"I am censored,I want to purchase your VW PASSAT and I will like to know if it's still up for sale and what is the final asking price,I will like to pay using PayPal,After payments has been made,I will arrange for the pick-up and will you let my pick-up agent to come to you house for the pick up?Because i don't want you to worry yourself about the shipment,Kindly get back with more pictures"
Was deleted immediately.

The other one was more promising, asked questions about the condition, reason for sale, tax, etc, etc.
And then....

"Ok then, I can do £XXXX.. Where is it located? I will need to contact the delivery agent to know the cost and expenses for the pick up from your location.
Regards"

As the Dragon said, I'm out.
Has anyone actually sold a car to someone who does that? Is there ever a genuine "delivery agent", "pick up from your location" type operation that is somehow being exploited by scam after scam after scam?

Liquid Tuna

1,403 posts

185 months

Tuesday 29th April 2014
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Bad luck I think. Certain cars seem to attract this st more than others. It's a pain.

anonymous-user

83 months

Tuesday 29th April 2014
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I had a load of this when I listed my Z4 on the classifieds. Bloody nightmare!!

Triumph Man

9,577 posts

197 months

Tuesday 29th April 2014
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I wouldn't want to deal with someone named either

Bisonhead

1,598 posts

218 months

Tuesday 29th April 2014
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Its much easier to ignore all emails and wait for someone to call you.

People only call if they are genuinely interested. The trick from there is weeding out the ones who cant afford the car and offer you an insulting starting bid.

I had loads when I sold my old Jag - had it for sale for ages but just waited for the right person to call. Far more straight forward.

anonymous-user

83 months

Tuesday 29th April 2014
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Bisonhead said:
Its much easier to ignore all emails and wait for someone to call you.

People only call if they are genuinely interested. The trick from there is weeding out the ones who cant afford the car and offer you an insulting starting bid.

I had loads when I sold my old Jag - had it for sale for ages but just waited for the right person to call. Far more straight forward.
Good advice!

R6VED

1,490 posts

169 months

Tuesday 29th April 2014
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I sold my wife's car on here back in February and had none of this malarkey - 14 people contacted me via email/phone with only 2x "what's your lowest price bludd" type communications.

Sold to the first person who called at full asking price and wasn't advertised anywhere else.


Hackney

Original Poster:

7,426 posts

237 months

Tuesday 29th April 2014
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Same person just responded to the ad with exactly the same opening gambit email.

Snowboy

8,028 posts

180 months

Tuesday 29th April 2014
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Hackney said:
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Has anyone actually sold a car to someone who does that? Is there ever a genuine "delivery agent", "pick up from your location" type operation that is somehow being exploited by scam after scam after scam?
I think it does happen.
But they tend to be high price cars and the agent will be very efficient.

An old mate of mine sold his M3 to a bloke in Dubai via an agent.

RizzoTheRat

28,833 posts

221 months

Tuesday 29th April 2014
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Hackney said:
Has anyone actually sold a car to someone who does that? Is there ever a genuine "delivery agent", "pick up from your location" type operation that is somehow being exploited by scam after scam after scam?
I know a bloke who used to have a motorcycle transport firm, he'd quite often collect and transport bikes on the behalf of buyers who'd not met the vendor, but that tended to be more common with classics than newer stuff.

Censorious

15,169 posts

263 months

Tuesday 29th April 2014
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If someone did pay up front by paypal and then send an agent to collect; what would the issue be?

Sorry if I'm being really naive.....

jimmy156

3,833 posts

216 months

Tuesday 29th April 2014
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Censorious said:
If someone did pay up front by paypal and then send an agent to collect; what would the issue be?

Sorry if I'm being really naive.....
They would then claim to have not received the goods and the money would be claimed back from paypal.

Or they have hacked someones paypal account.

Censorious

15,169 posts

263 months

Tuesday 29th April 2014
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jimmy156 said:
Censorious said:
If someone did pay up front by paypal and then send an agent to collect; what would the issue be?

Sorry if I'm being really naive.....
They would then claim to have not received the goods and the money would be claimed back from paypal.

Or they have hacked someones paypal account.
You could quite feasibly get paid via paypal at auction end then have the buyer discuss the agent collecting later on when funds have exchanged.

If an agent does collect, a photo of the handover and a signed receipt could be arranged.

Campo

12,582 posts

226 months

Tuesday 29th April 2014
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PayPal will turn into cheque as the deal closes, they'll send you a cheque but for too much by mistake and then ask for you to send them back the difference.

If you really fall for it you'll send them a cheque for a couple of grand and their original cheque will bounce when it finally works it's way through the banking system.

There's loads of holes in the scam but it must work now and again because they've been at it for years.

Snowboy

8,028 posts

180 months

Tuesday 29th April 2014
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The main scam is to pay you £50-500 extra then ask you to pay the delivery agent.
The delivery agent is fake, with a fake website that only takes credit cards.
You pay them, they then have your money and your card details.

This scam can be run by someone in a totally different country without even seeing the car.

Edited by Snowboy on Tuesday 29th April 12:07

HaloGen8

1,413 posts

158 months

Tuesday 29th April 2014
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Sold a Saab 9000 & a Zafira via the aforementioned way - no problems, granted they were from the European continent (no disrespect) but all in all no hassle. They kept in touch and paid as they should, collected and went without fuss in both cases.


rallycross

13,749 posts

266 months

Tuesday 29th April 2014
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I've got a BMW in the P/H and all I am getting is moronic TXT SPK innit' Bruv' messages offering silly low prices (30% off) and some even wanting me to deliver the car to them, before being paid, over 200 miles away.
Which means there is a high number of utter bellends reading the PH ads which means they must also be reading the forums, innit'.
Its very depressing the low level of intelect these buyers are showing!

chevy-stu

5,392 posts

257 months

Tuesday 29th April 2014
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rallycross said:
I've got a BMW in the P/H and all I am getting is moronic TXT SPK innit' Bruv' messages offering silly low prices (30% off) and some even wanting me to deliver the car to them, before being paid, over 200 miles away.
Which means there is a high number of utter bellends reading the PH ads which means they must also be reading the forums, innit'.
Its very depressing the low level of intelect these buyers are showing!
That's unfortunately the kind of buyer BMW's attracts too .... wink dreading trying to sell mine in a few weeks... frown