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Thinking of swapping my 944S2 for a 911 next year (as i'm 40 
)
It'll be a daily drive (about 6K/year) having looked into it I'd really like a 993 but finding an Xtra £20K might be a little difficult so was considering a 964 (Xtra £10K ???).
Question is would the 964 cost me a lot more to keep on the road ?
I've seen this one
www.pistonheads.com/sales/detail.asp?i=32934&s=79
& like the fact that the engines been rebuilt as i don't fancy having to pay out BIG ££££ for such work!!!!
Is this the only problem with these cars or are there others that i should look out for (I'd intend getting an independent inspection doen but would like to try & sus-out a decent car B4 having it inspected)
Ta
) It'll be a daily drive (about 6K/year) having looked into it I'd really like a 993 but finding an Xtra £20K might be a little difficult so was considering a 964 (Xtra £10K ???).
Question is would the 964 cost me a lot more to keep on the road ?
I've seen this one
www.pistonheads.com/sales/detail.asp?i=32934&s=79
& like the fact that the engines been rebuilt as i don't fancy having to pay out BIG ££££ for such work!!!!
Is this the only problem with these cars or are there others that i should look out for (I'd intend getting an independent inspection doen but would like to try & sus-out a decent car B4 having it inspected)
Ta
having just been through this exercise at length,(also approaching 40!), trading up from a 944 2.7, and eventually having opted for a 968cab instead, I can sympathise. I do think your budget might need expanding a little.
the thing is, you'll undoubtedly be very familiar now with your 944, and the things that do and dont go wrong. when you move to a 964 its a whole new ball game. I saw many many ropey examples. The engine rebuild issue usually refers to a "top end" rebuild to address oil leaks - the additional bore size of the 964 compared to the 3.2 carrera rendered the 964 prone to oil leaks through the cylinder head joint face. Porsche did actually do a recall at the time, but few customers bothered. There are now enough 964s out there with a top end rebuild that I personally felt it was daft to look at any that hadnt had this done - though its not by any means a guarantee of curing oil ooze, as lots of things leak e.g power sterring shaft seals. I'm sure I missed some top examples by deciding this, but at the end of the day a top end rebuild is 4-6K no matter how you look at it.
The clutch and flywheel invariably need doing at some point, average 70-80K miles. The one youve posted has had these so a good start. The other major issue is the front wishbones which often need sorting.
I concluded that, even now, I'd have to spend 21K or more to get a really really good RHD example from a dealer and probably 17-18K privately. You dont say what condition your S2 is in but even a superb bridge spoiler model probably isnt going to get more than 6-6.5k from a dealer, maybe 8-9K privately if your lucky
Hence I think you may need to adjust your budget upwards a little.
Also you'll need to budget on a couple of grand at least in reserve in case of major grief.
thar's why in the end I went for a 968. similar to the 944 ref maintenence, much better performance, close to the 964 but a different driving experience, granted.
If youve not found it already, can I suggest Hartech's excellent downloadable buyers guide, and for more detail on the 964, Adrian Crawford does a very good downloadable 964 buyers guide with lots of pics. Neither are any substitute for an inspection!
the thing is, you'll undoubtedly be very familiar now with your 944, and the things that do and dont go wrong. when you move to a 964 its a whole new ball game. I saw many many ropey examples. The engine rebuild issue usually refers to a "top end" rebuild to address oil leaks - the additional bore size of the 964 compared to the 3.2 carrera rendered the 964 prone to oil leaks through the cylinder head joint face. Porsche did actually do a recall at the time, but few customers bothered. There are now enough 964s out there with a top end rebuild that I personally felt it was daft to look at any that hadnt had this done - though its not by any means a guarantee of curing oil ooze, as lots of things leak e.g power sterring shaft seals. I'm sure I missed some top examples by deciding this, but at the end of the day a top end rebuild is 4-6K no matter how you look at it.
The clutch and flywheel invariably need doing at some point, average 70-80K miles. The one youve posted has had these so a good start. The other major issue is the front wishbones which often need sorting.
I concluded that, even now, I'd have to spend 21K or more to get a really really good RHD example from a dealer and probably 17-18K privately. You dont say what condition your S2 is in but even a superb bridge spoiler model probably isnt going to get more than 6-6.5k from a dealer, maybe 8-9K privately if your lucky
Hence I think you may need to adjust your budget upwards a little.
Also you'll need to budget on a couple of grand at least in reserve in case of major grief.
thar's why in the end I went for a 968. similar to the 944 ref maintenence, much better performance, close to the 964 but a different driving experience, granted.
If youve not found it already, can I suggest Hartech's excellent downloadable buyers guide, and for more detail on the 964, Adrian Crawford does a very good downloadable 964 buyers guide with lots of pics. Neither are any substitute for an inspection!
My S2 isn't a bridge spoiler example but has had everything done when i got it. Hartec did full service including all belts, replace front wishbone, new disc's & pads refurbed calipers, it's just had a new cluch & is in Black with Linen leather!!!!!!!!!!
I'd not let it go for less than £7K
I recon i should be able to get a decent early 993 for £27 or a late'ish 964 for £17-18K.
It's either this or VX220 Turbo
which from what i can make out would be faster & cheaper than the above BUT I've always hankered after a 911....
I'd not let it go for less than £7K
I recon i should be able to get a decent early 993 for £27 or a late'ish 964 for £17-18K.
It's either this or VX220 Turbo
which from what i can make out would be faster & cheaper than the above BUT I've always hankered after a 911....Gassing Station | Porsche General | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff