£15-25k everyday(ish) B-Road blast?
£15-25k everyday(ish) B-Road blast?
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clowesy

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294 posts

150 months

Tuesday 29th April 2014
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Having recently helped refurbish and then sell a property that was left to us, I'm in the fortunate position of being able to use some of the cash to purchase a new car. I have £11k from my own car fund (and having sold my 147 GTA after 3 years of ownership) and I'm looking to throw in a maximum of around £15k of the money made from the property sale. The car will be used perhaps 4 days a week at most for going to work, and when weather dictates, getting to Uni as I normally cycle; it will probably only cover 3-4k miles per year. I'm looking ideally for running costs which do not exceed that of the 147 GTA; practicality is not an issue so long as I can fit a Sea Sucker bike rack to it; but most importantly it must be a really great drive. The thing that always bugged me about the Alfa was that every time I had to drive it somewhere it put a big grin on my face; it sounded awesome, looked great and went well. However, I never found myself wanting to just go for a drive in it, it cost to much to take on a long hoon in the country and felt out of its depth on the kind of roads I really enjoy. Before the Alfa I owned an Megane R26 which was brilliant; sensible running costs; great for a B road blast and I always found myself going on random trips to Wales etc in that car.

As such, I've been waiting for an R26.R with the spec I want to come up for sale, but after a few months now it has failed to materialise so I'm looking for possible alternatives. The R26.R is probably the only hatchback that I'm really attracted to for its rarity, stupidity and ability. Beyond that I think after 3 hot hatches I'd like to progress to something rear wheel drive and more of a true sports/performance car. I've been tempted by a Lotus Exige S or Elise SC but besides their inability to transport bikes, I'm 6ft 5" and think I'd get tired of having people watch my car give birth to me every time I try to get out of it. A Z4M has been another consideration but £475 RFL and fuel consumption put me off.

On a final note, I'd also like to put my money into something with fairly strong residuals so that once I come to sell (which will most likely be when I finish Uni) I can recoup enough of the original outlay for perhaps a deposit on a House etc.

Any suggestions?

danp

1,650 posts

291 months

Tuesday 29th April 2014
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E46 M3, Toyota GT86, Z4 3.0 coupe?

Edit: Z3MC

Edited by danp on Tuesday 29th April 16:11

DNB DJ

155 posts

159 months

Tuesday 29th April 2014
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danp said:
E46 M3, Toyota GT86, Z4 3.0 coupe?
Megane 265 cup??

JackReacher

2,275 posts

244 months

Tuesday 29th April 2014
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A lotus would not be practical enough, I would go for a Cayman S.

DNB DJ

155 posts

159 months

Tuesday 29th April 2014
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danp said:
E46 M3, Toyota GT86, Z4 3.0 coupe?
I am 6ft 5 to and its a struggle for me to get in most 2 seaters

ManFromDelmonte

2,744 posts

209 months

Tuesday 29th April 2014
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996 911?

That's where my money would go.

kambites

71,447 posts

250 months

Tuesday 29th April 2014
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For what it's worth, there is a company that makes bike racks for the Elise. Pretty sure they exist for the Boxster too.

BJG1

5,966 posts

241 months

Tuesday 29th April 2014
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I wouldn't worry about fuel consumption. In the Boxster S I average 20 mpg, at 130p a litre that's £1181.98 a year if you do 4,000 miles. If you get something that does 30mpg you're saving £300 on that. Guess it depends how much you've budgeted for running costs but £300 a year doesn't sound like loads to me if you're going to have to massively compromise on driving pleasure.

kambites

71,447 posts

250 months

Tuesday 29th April 2014
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yes If you're spending that much on anything mainstream, you're going to lose more than £5k a year in depreciation, worrying about 300 quid's worth of fuel is probably somewhat missing the point. smile

clowesy

Original Poster:

294 posts

150 months

Tuesday 29th April 2014
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I'm trying my best to not buy mainstream. I want something rare/interesting/unusual. Only ever saw ine other 147 GTA on the road during my ownership. I very nearly bought an Integrale Evo 1 the week before buying my Alfa. It would have cost me no more to keep on the road and I'd have made money when selling rather than losing. I like the 265 but the depreciation is scary, they cost the same or less now than an older R26.R, which I can see holding around the £15K mark for a while. Residuals on the Lotus are naturally fantastic and I have seen pictures of people using the Sea Sucker bike racks with them, but the comments that follow usually include the cost of a new rear clam. Not a big fan of Porsche although the Cayman has been considered, but I'm put off by people saying you need a warranty.

kambites

71,447 posts

250 months

Tuesday 29th April 2014
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I was thinking of this one:



It does involve cutting a hole in the clam, though (I think it bolts to the steel roll-bar). I certainly wouldn't use one that simply rests on the rear clam. It probably will eventually crack the paint as the clam flexes.

billy939

375 posts

173 months

Tuesday 29th April 2014
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Still being at Uni you're probably the right age for this sort of thing to be very tempting, especially in Bayside blue:

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/n...

This could be an entertaining weekend car, fuel economy may be a bit off though:

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/v...

This could be a more sensible option for practicality as well as fun? It wouldn't compare to an R26.r for raw fun and ability though:

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/v...

As a big Honda fan I have to suggest this as something relatively cheap, practical and great performance to go with it, you get the exclusivity as well:

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/h...

My money would be on this though, just for sense of occasion that you would probably not get with the others:

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...

clowesy

Original Poster:

294 posts

150 months

Tuesday 29th April 2014
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I've seen those racks as well, I think they cost a fair whack though. Not sure I'd want to be drilling holes and it doesn't fit the Exige which I think would be my choice of the two.

kambites

71,447 posts

250 months

Tuesday 29th April 2014
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clowesy said:
I've seen those racks as well, I think they cost a fair whack though. Not sure I'd want to be drilling holes and it doesn't fit the Exige which I think would be my choice of the two.
Yeah, I think the rack is four figures, plus you have to find someone to do the clam modifications for you so it's far from ideal.

You can buy bolt-on roof rack assemblies for the Boxster (they essentially add fixed door frames while on) which might be another option?



I'm sure you can get a rack for the Cayman, too.

Podie

46,649 posts

304 months

Tuesday 29th April 2014
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Mk1 Focus RS?

11k should get you a decent one, and the RS cars do seem to hold value.

GreatGranny

9,519 posts

255 months

Tuesday 29th April 2014
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A Z4M would be well below budget so the high RFL shouldn't be an issue.
Ditto fuel consumption and you are only doing 3-4k miles per annum.

They do look good.


kambites

71,447 posts

250 months

Tuesday 29th April 2014
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Or if you want something a bit more individual looking, how about a Z3M coupe? smile

Podie

46,649 posts

304 months

Tuesday 29th April 2014
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What are Clio V6s coming in at these days?

clowesy

Original Poster:

294 posts

150 months

Tuesday 29th April 2014
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RE: Porsche, what sort of money are we talking for servicing from a reputable indy for a Boxster/Cayman S, and what is the likelihood of something to go cataclysmically wrong? I've read about bore scoring to death.

Also, the same question but for M cars, namely Z4M.

kambites

71,447 posts

250 months

Tuesday 29th April 2014
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I think the answer to the question about Porsche engines is "low, but if it does happen it can be very expensive to fix".

The only issue I'm aware of with the Z4M is the Vanos failures which again are rare but fairly expensive to fix if it does go.


How about something nice and reliable like a TVR? hehe

Edited by kambites on Tuesday 29th April 17:02