The time is coming for a camera destruction derby.
Discussion
I'm a law abiding citizen, I have no points on my licence. I have no criminal record, allthough I was given a warning when I was 15. I pretty much represent Joe Public, apart from the fact that I love cars and have an unusual choice.
What led me to put this thread up was the outrage I felt when I read one of the "New regs" threads.
Aren't you fed up with this shit?
We hear pressure groups lobbying the authorities and expressing an all too logical and sensible argument. It seems that logic and reason do not play a part in this crap of highway over regulation. I have come to a conclusion that it is going to get a lot worse before it gets better. If no-one listens to the public, it is time to make them listen. Actions speaking louder than words. I would be one of the last people to pick up a pot of thermite or a disc cutter, but the time has come.
Perhaps this will land me in the sin-bin or even on a "Police-Watch" list but I think this deserves airing.
I am aware of how helpless the men at the cutting edge are. It seems that the problem lies further up the pyramid and it isn't listening.
Forget the crap about "Cutting a speed camera down costs the taxpayer £30K",
that. The war cost £200B who wanted that? This government are putting in excessive control measures for everything and I think it is time we told them to off.
In other words, what I am saying is that the public should take the outrage of this personally and take deliberate action against the bloody cameras.
The form this should take should be the safest kind of method where no poor lefthanded lesbian trombonist, asylum seeker or single chav bitch with 67 kids should have their safety and human rights threatened.
The best method in my mind is employing the exothermic reaction of Aluminium and iron oxide. Finely ground aluminium being available from fiberglass suppliers and iron oxide (red iron oxide) being available from pottery stores. This should be ignited using a sparkler. Of course about 3am when there are none of the above likely to be torched by it.
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WHAT AM I GOING TO BE DOING ABOUT THIS????
NOTHING.......
Sadly, I was given a set of morals/English standards by my parents which stop me morally committing a crime. If I was being beaten by a punk, I wouldn't fight back, as I value my freedom. I'm not even going to leave the country, because, despite this shit, I love it. The people in charge of this country do not represent the people who make it happen.
But. At some point the UK public will lose it's stiff upper lip, take up tools and wreak havoc. I have been shagged in my wallet by this war mongering . I am expected to have an ID card, pay for it. Put up with ridiculous spending on frigging transexual operations for underprivilaged ups. I DON'T SEE ANY BENEFITS MYSELF AND AM ING ANGRY.
I still have my stiff upper lip and I am going to do jack shit, but it could change and probably will change.
What led me to put this thread up was the outrage I felt when I read one of the "New regs" threads.
Aren't you fed up with this shit?
We hear pressure groups lobbying the authorities and expressing an all too logical and sensible argument. It seems that logic and reason do not play a part in this crap of highway over regulation. I have come to a conclusion that it is going to get a lot worse before it gets better. If no-one listens to the public, it is time to make them listen. Actions speaking louder than words. I would be one of the last people to pick up a pot of thermite or a disc cutter, but the time has come.
Perhaps this will land me in the sin-bin or even on a "Police-Watch" list but I think this deserves airing.
I am aware of how helpless the men at the cutting edge are. It seems that the problem lies further up the pyramid and it isn't listening.
Forget the crap about "Cutting a speed camera down costs the taxpayer £30K",
that. The war cost £200B who wanted that? This government are putting in excessive control measures for everything and I think it is time we told them to off. In other words, what I am saying is that the public should take the outrage of this personally and take deliberate action against the bloody cameras.
The form this should take should be the safest kind of method where no poor lefthanded lesbian trombonist, asylum seeker or single chav bitch with 67 kids should have their safety and human rights threatened.
The best method in my mind is employing the exothermic reaction of Aluminium and iron oxide. Finely ground aluminium being available from fiberglass suppliers and iron oxide (red iron oxide) being available from pottery stores. This should be ignited using a sparkler. Of course about 3am when there are none of the above likely to be torched by it.
*****************************************************
WHAT AM I GOING TO BE DOING ABOUT THIS????
NOTHING.......
Sadly, I was given a set of morals/English standards by my parents which stop me morally committing a crime. If I was being beaten by a punk, I wouldn't fight back, as I value my freedom. I'm not even going to leave the country, because, despite this shit, I love it. The people in charge of this country do not represent the people who make it happen.
But. At some point the UK public will lose it's stiff upper lip, take up tools and wreak havoc. I have been shagged in my wallet by this war mongering
. I am expected to have an ID card, pay for it. Put up with ridiculous spending on frigging transexual operations for underprivilaged ups. I DON'T SEE ANY BENEFITS MYSELF AND AM ING ANGRY. I still have my stiff upper lip and I am going to do jack shit, but it could change and probably will change.
Just one flaw in your cunning plan - it's not gatso's that are your enemy, or even new labour. They couldn't give a damn what you get up to.
And the reason they don't give a dam is because your real enemy is your fellow motorist who will ensure that you are too busy fighting him over his own person passion, or just fighting him because it amuses him, to fight the real enemy.
Divide and rule.
See -
A Simple Question For Gone, Towman, and their Ilk
Has anyone seen an Ilk?
How They Traded Their TVRs For Public Transport
And weep.
>> Edited by diesel ed on Wednesday 1st December 23:07
And the reason they don't give a dam is because your real enemy is your fellow motorist who will ensure that you are too busy fighting him over his own person passion, or just fighting him because it amuses him, to fight the real enemy.
Divide and rule.
See -
A Simple Question For Gone, Towman, and their Ilk
Has anyone seen an Ilk?
How They Traded Their TVRs For Public Transport
And weep.
>> Edited by diesel ed on Wednesday 1st December 23:07
diesel ed said:
Just one flaw in your cunning plan - it's not gatso's that are your enemy, or even new labour. They couldn't give a damn what you get up to.
And the reason they don't give a dam is because your real enemy is your fellow motorist who will ensure that you are too busy fighting him over his own person passion, or just fighting him because it amuses him, to fight the real enemy.
Divide and rule.
See -
A Simple Question For Gone, Towman, and their Ilk
Has anyone seen an Ilk?
How They Traded Their TVRs For Public Transport
And weep.
Weep? Thats the noise my guinea pig makes!!! Why on earth would anyone want to weep at an ilk?!
diesel ed said:
A Simple Question For Gone, Towman, and their Ilk
Has anyone seen an Ilk?
How They Traded Their TVRs For Public Transport
And weep.
OK. Lets look at these one by one.
Simple Question......Not a simple question at all. Loaded with what you thought were clever traps to try and catch people out. Are you angry because it failed?
You will recall that you started the thread as you lost a previous arguement relating to a driver allegedly travelling at almost twice the limit who killed a drunken teenager. I had the audacity to post that the driver was to blame because he was neither observing nor anticipating. What a misguided soul I am.
The motto of PH is "Speed Matters". Of course it does - go as fast as you can, wherever you can, butas slow as you need to, when you need to. It`s about travelling at the right speed in the right circumstance - thats what matters.
Seen an Ilk Humour - look it up.
Traded TVRs etc Appears to me to be more pointless ramblings, so there is nothing to answer.
Love and Kisses
Toerag
LM,
I'm fairly new to the forum, and just reading about all of the new regs coming in makes my blood boil too (OK, I've probably got high blood pressure anyway, but...). It's clear the government are out to shaft the motorist with the biggest... they can get their hands on, and most motorists are too sheep-like to actually do anything about it, and most of the rest are in the "It's not me, I'm not a criminal" category, and do an ostrich impression.
So you get the remaining few who can see exactly where the wind is blowing (And I DO know a hawk from a handsaw here!!!), but who have far too little clout to effect any change.
Impotence is a very frustrating condition...in any of it's forms!
I'm fairly new to the forum, and just reading about all of the new regs coming in makes my blood boil too (OK, I've probably got high blood pressure anyway, but...). It's clear the government are out to shaft the motorist with the biggest... they can get their hands on, and most motorists are too sheep-like to actually do anything about it, and most of the rest are in the "It's not me, I'm not a criminal" category, and do an ostrich impression.
So you get the remaining few who can see exactly where the wind is blowing (And I DO know a hawk from a handsaw here!!!), but who have far too little clout to effect any change.
Impotence is a very frustrating condition...in any of it's forms!
love machine said:
The best method in my mind is employing the exothermic reaction of Aluminium and iron oxide. Finely ground aluminium being available from fiberglass suppliers and iron oxide (red iron oxide) being available from pottery stores. This should be ignited using a sparkler. Of course about 3am when there are none of the above likely to be torched by it.
WHAT AM I GOING TO BE DOING ABOUT THIS????
NOTHING.......
OK, since you've bottled out (
) we need another way. We need a way of really kicking this government in the balls. If a company really p!sses you off, you don't buy their products. Sales of the Sun newspaper crashed in Merseyside after their reporting of Hillsborough (and I gather they never properly recovered).
So what do we do that's:-
a) Totally legal (no incendiary devices)
b) Totally pacifist (no poll-tax riots)
c) Doesn't impact any sector of the population (no fuel-protests - we want to sh!t on the government, not each other.)
The mechanism that's in place is voting, but that's not going to work because:-
a) There's no-one else to vote for
b) Even if there was, they'd be just as bad within a few months (remember the euphoria when Labour got in, and ousted the most arrogant sleaze-ridden government in living memory - didn't last long, did it?)
So... What do we do...?
Vote for a different Goverment next May. It won't cost anything, and will resolve the issue quicker than any other plan we'll be able to think up.
PLUS, if the Government changes colour partly as a result of a reasoned discussion about Camera Policy we'll all feel very happy with ourselves.
Now all we need to do is find a Political party that will tear the bloody things down where they are blatent cash cows...
PLUS, if the Government changes colour partly as a result of a reasoned discussion about Camera Policy we'll all feel very happy with ourselves.
Now all we need to do is find a Political party that will tear the bloody things down where they are blatent cash cows...
corozin said:
Vote for a different Goverment next May. It won't cost anything, and will resolve the issue quicker than any other plan we'll be able to think up.
PLUS, if the Government changes colour partly as a result of a reasoned discussion about Camera Policy we'll all feel very happy with ourselves.
Now all we need to do is find a Political party that will tear the bloody things down where they are blatent cash cows...
Vote CSP then.
Why not do the Postcard assault, as used by the pro hunting lobby ??????.
Everyone on this site writes out 10 postcards complaining about speed policy and posts them on a set date or dates, adressed to the lovely Mr.Blair. Better still a short note in an envelope as someone has to open and read every single one.
What does this achieve ?? Absolutely nothing except annoying the shit out of them and delaying all their post.
Apparently Mr.Blair was jolly cross about it.
They bug us, we bug them.
>> Edited by ratpit on Wednesday 1st December 19:45
Everyone on this site writes out 10 postcards complaining about speed policy and posts them on a set date or dates, adressed to the lovely Mr.Blair. Better still a short note in an envelope as someone has to open and read every single one.
What does this achieve ?? Absolutely nothing except annoying the shit out of them and delaying all their post.
Apparently Mr.Blair was jolly cross about it.
They bug us, we bug them.
>> Edited by ratpit on Wednesday 1st December 19:45
TheExcession said:
So what to do?
Umm, don't break the speed limit - starve them - they'll die out and rust.
Its the only way.
best
Ex
Yeah, like that works.
In the 8 or so years speed cameras have been seriously plauging us I've never once been caught by one.
And yet they still multiply like rabbits on viagra.
ratpit said:
Why not do the Postcard assault, as used by the pro hunting lobby ??????.
Everyone on this site writes out 10 postcards complaining about speed policy and posts them on a set date or dates, adressed to the lovely Mr.Blair. Better still a short note in an envelope as someone has to open and read every single one.
What does this achieve ?? Absolutely nothing except annoying the shit out of them and delaying all their post.
Apparently Mr.Blair was jolly cross about it.
They bug us, we bug them.
I like the sound of that
Andy
>> Edited by andytk on Wednesday 1st December 21:56
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