Drink-drive charge for Detective Chief Superintendent David
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West Yorks DCS failing to provide specimen of breath to North Yorks officers
http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/11190892.Drink_dri...
http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/11190892.Drink_dri...
- can I claim "Savile's Law" (along the lines of Godwin's law) in force here? 
though 
- lead by example and all that... 
Have you picked on this particular story just because the drink driver is a police officer or are you on a crusade to name and shame every drink drive idiot nationwide on PH or is it something more personal with this DCS or the police in general. (And no before you ask I am not a police officer)
Knopwood does sound like it could be a name for a Real Ale.
It conjures up knotty hops with less of the sometimes inconvenient brewer's droop?
From a glass half full perspective at least he wasn't doing a ton-forty in a car paid for by us, running on tyres paid for by us, using petrol paid for by us, on a Motorway paid for by us.
It conjures up knotty hops with less of the sometimes inconvenient brewer's droop?
From a glass half full perspective at least he wasn't doing a ton-forty in a car paid for by us, running on tyres paid for by us, using petrol paid for by us, on a Motorway paid for by us.
Edited by carinaman on Saturday 3rd May 23:13
radio man said:
Have you picked on this particular story just because the drink driver is a police officer or are you on a crusade to name and shame every drink drive idiot nationwide on PH or is it something more personal with this DCS or the police in general. (And no before you ask I am not a police officer)
He isn't just a police officer. He's a DCS. I'd say that it was fairly newsworthy.It's like Part Time Judge Constance Briscoe. Those that seek to govern, judge and administer punishment get their noses rubbed in it when found out. It's par for the course.
'If you can't do the time, don't do the crime' don't some say?
It bears comparison with the British press habit of building people up to then knock them down again, which may be partially why Jeremy Clarkson is on the receiving end of public ire at the moment.
It's no different from people wanting to forensically examine the household finances of Chris Harris to see how he can afford to splash out so much on that 2CV.
'If you can't do the time, don't do the crime' don't some say?
It bears comparison with the British press habit of building people up to then knock them down again, which may be partially why Jeremy Clarkson is on the receiving end of public ire at the moment.
It's no different from people wanting to forensically examine the household finances of Chris Harris to see how he can afford to splash out so much on that 2CV.
I 'picked on the story' due to the rank of the office involved. No other reason.
A DCS with such disregard for the drink drive laws has no place in a police force imo. It is right and proper - again imo - that should he proven guilty at the end of the due process that will follow that, in addition to the punishment handed down by the courts, he should be immediately dismissed from the Police and forfeit his pension and any other benefits accrued by virtue of his service.
A DCS with such disregard for the drink drive laws has no place in a police force imo. It is right and proper - again imo - that should he proven guilty at the end of the due process that will follow that, in addition to the punishment handed down by the courts, he should be immediately dismissed from the Police and forfeit his pension and any other benefits accrued by virtue of his service.
What is the obsession some people have with forfeiture of pension if someone is dismissed from public Sector employment ?
a part funded PS pension is worth considerably less than fully funded one and what aobut the contributions paid by trhe employee and the fact that PRBs factor in pension levels in pay calculations ...
it's like the obsession some people hjave with trying to ridicule PS employess who sue their employer when the employer is at fault or does not fulfill their obligations with regard to Health and safety whicvh results in an injury ... ( and to to clarify - any loss of earnings compensation will be paid to the employer against any full or half pay sick pay period)
a part funded PS pension is worth considerably less than fully funded one and what aobut the contributions paid by trhe employee and the fact that PRBs factor in pension levels in pay calculations ...
it's like the obsession some people hjave with trying to ridicule PS employess who sue their employer when the employer is at fault or does not fulfill their obligations with regard to Health and safety whicvh results in an injury ... ( and to to clarify - any loss of earnings compensation will be paid to the employer against any full or half pay sick pay period)
Unlikely to forfeit pension (nor should he) http://www.surrey-pcc.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/20... but could well lose his job if convicted.
South Yorks, less aggravating factors (happened day after & pled guilty) but still got sacked http://www.policeoracle.com/news/Police+Staff/2014...
South Yorks, less aggravating factors (happened day after & pled guilty) but still got sacked http://www.policeoracle.com/news/Police+Staff/2014...
Edited by omegac on Sunday 4th May 18:46
mph1977 said:
you obviously haven;t met any PSD types ...
I have. They're not much cop.A friend of a friend is in police HR. I said to them 'hopefully that trip away you've just returned from didn't involve any speeding as you'd have to inform on yourself.' They said, 'Yeah, but my force has kept officers that have been done for drunk driving.'
carinaman said:
I have. They're not much cop.
A friend of a friend is in police HR. I said to them 'hopefully that trip away you've just returned from didn't involve any speeding as you'd have to inform on yourself.' They said, 'Yeah, but my force has kept officers that have been done for drunk driving.'
I bet you're a laugh a minute at dinner parties.A friend of a friend is in police HR. I said to them 'hopefully that trip away you've just returned from didn't involve any speeding as you'd have to inform on yourself.' They said, 'Yeah, but my force has kept officers that have been done for drunk driving.'
carinaman said:
mph1977 said:
you obviously haven;t met any PSD types ...
I have. They're not much cop.A friend of a friend is in police HR. I said to them 'hopefully that trip away you've just returned from didn't involve any speeding as you'd have to inform on yourself.' They said, 'Yeah, but my force has kept officers that have been done for drunk driving.'
there is also the difference between getting done for being a muppet and taking your punishment like like a grown up and for failing to provide / engaging in PCoJ.
taking responsibility for your actions can be a strong mitigating factor.
my point WRT PSD is they have no qualms about starting the process on on other serving officers ... there are no get out of jail free cards and even fewer if one attempts to present said card in a certain book ( or collection of books) or impaled on a certain shaped dagger ...
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