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How have the mighty fallen- the series that gave us Hunt,Pace ,Piquet , Senna , Button and so many more is now a parody of what it should be.F Renault - very poorly, Ecoboost FF- quick but under supported. The only two single seater series which really work well are now Formula Junior and Historic FF1600. Hang your heads in shame , the idiots at SMA and FIA or whoever else is responsible for the demise of modern single seaters in UK racing
They really should make it cheaper. It's all very well everyone buying the "same" dallaras, but when some teams have their own wind tunnels etc and make their own wings, costs escalate.
The FIA should make the wings and supply them. the wings go back to the organisers at the end of the event (if still in one piece) and they get allotted by lottery for the next round.
Wheels, driveshafts, cv joints, wheel bearings etc should be stock parts, off the shelf from a mainstream car manufacturer.
The other cost cutting measure that I would look in to would be making the tyre harder so they have one set to last all weekend.
As much as Palmer is a bellend to deal with, the FPA series was utterly brilliant for cost.
The FIA should make the wings and supply them. the wings go back to the organisers at the end of the event (if still in one piece) and they get allotted by lottery for the next round.
Wheels, driveshafts, cv joints, wheel bearings etc should be stock parts, off the shelf from a mainstream car manufacturer.
The other cost cutting measure that I would look in to would be making the tyre harder so they have one set to last all weekend.
As much as Palmer is a bellend to deal with, the FPA series was utterly brilliant for cost.
Justaredbadge said:
They really should make it cheaper. It's all very well everyone buying the "same" dallaras, but when some teams have their own wind tunnels etc and make their own wings, costs escalate.
The FIA should make the wings and supply them. the wings go back to the organisers at the end of the event (if still in one piece) and they get allotted by lottery for the next round.
Wheels, driveshafts, cv joints, wheel bearings etc should be stock parts, off the shelf from a mainstream car manufacturer.
The other cost cutting measure that I would look in to would be making the tyre harder so they have one set to last all weekend.
As much as Palmer is a bellend to deal with, the FPA series was utterly brilliant for cost.
He has said that he'd run British F3 before, and look at what he's done with F3 Cup!The FIA should make the wings and supply them. the wings go back to the organisers at the end of the event (if still in one piece) and they get allotted by lottery for the next round.
Wheels, driveshafts, cv joints, wheel bearings etc should be stock parts, off the shelf from a mainstream car manufacturer.
The other cost cutting measure that I would look in to would be making the tyre harder so they have one set to last all weekend.
As much as Palmer is a bellend to deal with, the FPA series was utterly brilliant for cost.
skeggysteve said:
Used to be a great series with full grids and a stepping stone to F1.
Todays race at Rockingham had 7 cars. Where did it all go wrong?
British F3 International, as with many, has had it's ups and downs over he years with the ebb and flow of talent and money. GP2 didn't really affect it and GP3 was having little impact. Euro F3 was a dead duck, even before we consider that it was only born out of the deader ducks that were the French and German F3 series. Without doubt until the last 3 years it was very much the plce to go if you wanted to go to F1.Todays race at Rockingham had 7 cars. Where did it all go wrong?
It must also be considered that with budgets of the size required for F3 and the economy being the way it has been more people have hung up their single seater dreams and moved to GTs or interests outside motorsport than would have been the case in the days of 'easy' money.
For reasons best known to those directly involved someone chose to try to destroy British F3 and make Euro F3 the main and only real F3 series. We can see how well that has worked out for everyone. The only 'winners' is the GP3 Series.
I have no idea why this decision was made and there is no logic to revert to beyond that the Euro Series raced(s) at a few more F1 track than BF3I did.
Ultimately though the blame lies at the door of one man who I would dearly love to discuss this with but who I doubt would wish to do so, and I suspect not only because, to him, I am no one.
It is interesting to see the approach that they are taking in relation to F4 as well as once again they appear to have got their approach very wrong, if their intention was actually to strengthen the no Bernie controlled single seater ladder.
That there was an agenda is in no doubt ; and it has produced a plethora of formulae few of which get the support they should and even fewer of which are run where the race fan (ie people like me who prefer live to tv ) can see them race. We have or have had Renault 3.5 , GP 2, GP 3 , F 4 ,A1 GP etc all of which just dilute what we should have and used to have.Over the years - FF1600, FF2000/ F Renault, F3 ,F2/3000/ 5000 and then F1 . Formulae have become over complex and over expensive - God knows it shouldn't be too difficult to rationalise what we have to something sustainable , starting with a modern equivalent to FF1600- no aero grip, simple mechanics and sublime racing . Follow that with a slicks and wings car with 180bhp ish, that with more sophisticated 240bhpish slicks and wings F3 , a modern F2 (GP 2 fine except it is the support act for Grands Prix and rarely if ever seen here in normal meetings). Having watched everybody from Hunt , Pace, Lauda and Fittipaldi , Piquet to Button and Senna in UK F3 (and FF1600 too in some cases), 60 plus entries for F3 , manic F2 at Mallory , massive FF1600 grids slipstreaming down to Stowe and F3000 battling away at Donington I despair at the current shambles- it is nothing short of a disgrace
norwichphoto said:
danfilm007 said:
He has said that he'd run British F3 before, and look at what he's done with F3 Cup!
MSV took over the ailing BRSCC F3 series, promoted it and got decent grids, but since he launched BRDC F4 all the promotion has been aimed at that.9 entries at Silverstone for the F3 Cup that other week, down from mid twenties or more, two years ago.
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