PH opinion: these cheap rally cars
PH opinion: these cheap rally cars
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ewanlikelegit

Original Poster:

8 posts

148 months

Monday 5th May 2014
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Just wondering what you guys think of these cars as starting out rally vehicles. I have looked all over for advise/prices but turns out the internet isn't a straightforward answer-giving machine. So -

Citroen Saxo
Rover MGZR
Golf MK 2,3,4
Peugeot 205/206
Honda Civic (1998)
BMW 318is (like the $500 craiglist dude that took on Rally Mexico!)
Suzuki Swift

Or maybe even exotic...

Mitsubishi FTO
VW Corrado
Toyota Trueno (would have to be a completely insane find)

OR any other you think need to be mentioned!

Should point out I am not old enough to drive - but I still know what an ECU and wishbone suspension are etc...

NB: Want to do the garage work, prep, paintjob and everything myself. Not always possible but still. THANKS

iva cosworth

44,044 posts

192 months

Monday 5th May 2014
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From your first list,the MG ,205 or 6 and Suzuki have all been rallied a lot.

I'd forget most of your second list.

You need to be in the right place at right time to pick up a cheap one to turn into

a cheap rallycar.

SonicShadow

2,452 posts

183 months

Monday 5th May 2014
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ewanlikelegit said:
Toyota Trueno (would have to be a completely insane find)
You're never going to find one of those 'cheap', certainly not for anywhere near the money of the other cars on the list!

Have you had a look at the requirements for each class? Engine size, drive train etc?

Adenauer

18,982 posts

265 months

Monday 5th May 2014
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Surely a Mitsubishi FTO or a VW Corrado would be a nono as any panel damage is going to be very expensive to replace?

ewanlikelegit

Original Poster:

8 posts

148 months

Monday 5th May 2014
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iva cosworth said:
From your first list,the MG ,205 or 6 and Suzuki have all been rallied a lot.

I'd forget most of your second list.
Yeah and yes the second list is a bit of a teens dream, I'll realise soon that not everything can go on dirt. which one would you recommend? Prices?

GravelBen

16,486 posts

259 months

Monday 5th May 2014
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Older Toyota Starlets and Corollas (including all the various Levin/Treuno versions) are very popular beginner rally cars on this side of the world. Cheap, tough, reliable etc.

SonicShadow

2,452 posts

183 months

Monday 5th May 2014
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http://www.corsa-c.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?3615...

Cheap, easy to work on, cheap to fix, abundant parts. The guy has had some decent results in his class too.

Drumroll

4,507 posts

149 months

Monday 5th May 2014
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If you want to get into rallying then here is a good place to start.

http://formula1000.co.uk/

magpie215

5,018 posts

218 months

Monday 5th May 2014
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K11 micra 3 door non sunroof

vrooom

3,763 posts

296 months

Monday 5th May 2014
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rwd would be better in rally?

ewanlikelegit

Original Poster:

8 posts

148 months

Monday 5th May 2014
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Forgot to add the likes of a fiesta, like a tin coffin but roll cages do wonders don't they? Think a focus would be a bit tricky to gain power without major work and money. But parts for fords are abundant because everyone is really boring with their car choices wink

Not looked in depth as regards to the governing body but I live in Aberdeenshire, Scotland - Granite City Rally goes straight past the house. The tracks around are excellent for rallying, owned by some dudes called the Forestry Commission, nice bunch, don't think they'd mind... :P

Joking about the last part - logging machines and angry officials round every would-be-apex aren't fun. Could result with death or even worse - the closure of the stages. ahah

My friend and I - 'nerds' with active enthusiasm, experiment with multi stage rockets most of the time - have agreed to do this as a team. He the co-driver, me the pilot. As will be when we join the RAF. Together we would have enough money and perseverence for making a car rally spec, entry fees, licenses, and a shed of spares. However PH is a brilliant place and we thought why not use it for some expert (most of the time!) advice.

Oh, any general advice like "don't hit trees", is helpful, you know what I mean, any tricks you think I deserve to know would be awesome!

GravelBen

16,486 posts

259 months

Monday 5th May 2014
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ewanlikelegit said:
Oh, any general advice like "don't hit trees", is helpful, you know what I mean, any tricks you think I deserve to know would be awesome!
Keep the shiny side up.

When in doubt, power out.

ewanlikelegit

Original Poster:

8 posts

148 months

Monday 5th May 2014
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Drumroll said:
If you want to get into rallying then here is a good place to start.

http://formula1000.co.uk/
Sounds great! I'll look into it, you may be on to something!

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

233 months

Monday 5th May 2014
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Not old enough to drive?

Are you sure?

Join Stonehaven car club

You can enter some events at 14.

Cyder

7,186 posts

249 months

Monday 5th May 2014
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vrooom said:
rwd would be better in rally?
Not necessarily, and it really depends on what kind of events the OP wants to do and the class he's planning to run in.

It's like saying which car should I buy to race? There's a thousand championships and series to choose from all of which accept different cars.

But in answer to the OP's questions I'd suggest MG ZR or 205, lots of already prepared ones around and if you buy a 1400cc one you can enter a whole raft of events and be reasonably competitive.

ewanlikelegit

Original Poster:

8 posts

148 months

Monday 5th May 2014
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McWigglebum4th said:
Join Stonehaven car club

I'll ask ma dad.

leafspring

7,032 posts

166 months

Monday 5th May 2014
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From your list I'd go with the MG, Swift or the 206... or the Civic if you do rallycross

williamp

20,386 posts

302 months

Monday 5th May 2014
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Have a look here and dream...

http://www.rally24.com/rally-cars-for-sale

ewanlikelegit

Original Poster:

8 posts

148 months

Monday 5th May 2014
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williamp said:
Have a look here and dream...
The Delta Integrale caught my eye. I have good job, no tax or bills, no better time to start saving! Maybe in 15 years haha

Edited by ewanlikelegit on Monday 5th May 13:13

anonymous-user

83 months

Monday 5th May 2014
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Buy something that is cheap and easy to re-shell.......


(the 206, is possibly a good option, lots of donor cars around still that no one really wants)