E9* gear boxes - are they all like this?
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Tried both manual and auto M3.
The manual had a fair bit of driveline shunt during gear changes, to the extent that the rear seat passenger could feel it through his behind and it was clearly audible - do they all do that or it was a dodgy example or just me having a really bad day with the peddles?
The auto reminded me of a bus, but I didn't really give the paddles a good work out - if I ignored auto and just played with the paddles would I forget the bus analogy?
What I really need is a proper test drive, not just a few minutes with salesman in the passenger seat!
Any thoughts?
The manual had a fair bit of driveline shunt during gear changes, to the extent that the rear seat passenger could feel it through his behind and it was clearly audible - do they all do that or it was a dodgy example or just me having a really bad day with the peddles?
The auto reminded me of a bus, but I didn't really give the paddles a good work out - if I ignored auto and just played with the paddles would I forget the bus analogy?
What I really need is a proper test drive, not just a few minutes with salesman in the passenger seat!
Any thoughts?
No need to lift off (unlike the SMG) with the DCT gearbox to achieve smooth changes. Just ensure the dealer has the latest software or better still, get the near GTS level update from Evolve or equivalent.
Manual gearboxes are as described above.
Tell the dealer you want a longer test drive.
Manual gearboxes are as described above.
Tell the dealer you want a longer test drive.
Six Days said:
Tried both manual and auto M3.
The manual had a fair bit of driveline shunt during gear changes, to the extent that the rear seat passenger could feel it through his behind and it was clearly audible - do they all do that or it was a dodgy example or just me having a really bad day with the peddles?
The auto reminded me of a bus, but I didn't really give the paddles a good work out - if I ignored auto and just played with the paddles would I forget the bus analogy?
What I really need is a proper test drive, not just a few minutes with salesman in the passenger seat!
Any thoughts?
Having owned a manual and a DCT'd e92, I'd say:The manual had a fair bit of driveline shunt during gear changes, to the extent that the rear seat passenger could feel it through his behind and it was clearly audible - do they all do that or it was a dodgy example or just me having a really bad day with the peddles?
The auto reminded me of a bus, but I didn't really give the paddles a good work out - if I ignored auto and just played with the paddles would I forget the bus analogy?
What I really need is a proper test drive, not just a few minutes with salesman in the passenger seat!
Any thoughts?
1. your experience of the manual doesn't sound right - there was something wrong either with it or with you
2. the DCT box isn't an auto in the normal sense. If you're expecting the seamless changes of an ordinary auto box, it's not the car for you. I hardly ever drove mine in auto mode - I almost always used the paddles.
3. you can change the settings for the speed at which the DCT swaps cogs - it's worth having a play around with that. As Ant Man said, there's no need to lift off in the DCT. And check the software is up to date.
4. if I was buying another, I'd definitley go for the DCT. It's a better gearbox than the manual and it suits the engine better when you're "on it". The DCT really makes the most of the high revving nature of the V8, encouraging and enabling a rather average driver like me to skip up and down the ratios, keeping the engine in its glorious sweet spot. It's a box/engine combo that really grew on me.
Ignore the comment above re lifting throttle on dct changes - maybe that applied on the e46 smg boxes - but certainly not the e92 dct. The dct is a great box and I would say that many people who have actually used the box prefer it and think it really suits the engine (exactly my view) although some will always want to be old school and stay with the stick shift.
I bought my car a few months back and there seemed to be quite a difference in price between dcts and manuals, with dct commanding a premium.
The dct software changed significantly during the life of the car - am not sure what the latest version was (the latest engine software version is 240e which dates from 2012).
I have a 2008 car which was significantly improved by upgrading to the latest engine and dct software. I believe that software improvements were made throughout the cars life so unless you have one of the last cars, worth getting done.
Per the above post, certain specialists offer the gts dct map, which I believe provides greater differentiation between modes and more aggressive blips on downshifts etc. This is what I have and I think it's fantastic.
A BMW dealer won't give u a gts map unless u have a gts and whilst some don't like updating software unless there is a specific problem, others will update to the latest versions of the standard software.
Do some searches on m3cutters and you'll get the picture.
In my view the software upgrades and the oem exhaust mod are must do (and relatively inexpensive) mods for the e92 m3. Make it a stunning car to drive and in my view, deeply satisfying to own.
I bought my car a few months back and there seemed to be quite a difference in price between dcts and manuals, with dct commanding a premium.
The dct software changed significantly during the life of the car - am not sure what the latest version was (the latest engine software version is 240e which dates from 2012).
I have a 2008 car which was significantly improved by upgrading to the latest engine and dct software. I believe that software improvements were made throughout the cars life so unless you have one of the last cars, worth getting done.
Per the above post, certain specialists offer the gts dct map, which I believe provides greater differentiation between modes and more aggressive blips on downshifts etc. This is what I have and I think it's fantastic.
A BMW dealer won't give u a gts map unless u have a gts and whilst some don't like updating software unless there is a specific problem, others will update to the latest versions of the standard software.
Do some searches on m3cutters and you'll get the picture.
In my view the software upgrades and the oem exhaust mod are must do (and relatively inexpensive) mods for the e92 m3. Make it a stunning car to drive and in my view, deeply satisfying to own.
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