Your view on the golf r32 mk4
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smallsmalls81 said:
I was wondering on people's views on the golf r32 mk4.
Is this car a future classic ?
I have heard many views on that it's slow and would be as fast as an udi a3 tdi 2.0?
It's great looking car but I keep reading figures that the 3.2 is just a waste.
They might be a future classic, but I don't think they're really rare enough, the really valuable old VW's tend not to be mainstream models, which the R32 is. Is this car a future classic ?
I have heard many views on that it's slow and would be as fast as an udi a3 tdi 2.0?
It's great looking car but I keep reading figures that the 3.2 is just a waste.
They're fast, 6.5ish 0-60 and 155mph top end, no standard Tdi is going to live with that, plus VW don't tend to worry themselves about industry benchmark stats, like the VR6 before it, on paper the extra expense over a GTi doesn't seem to worth while, but on the road it's more obvious.
They are bloody expensive to run though for hot hatches.
Last time I looked good MK4 R32s were roughly the same price as early MK5 GTis - I'd rather the MK5 GTi.
R32, or rather VR6 in general are more about in gear acceleration and linear power delivery.
Smooth progress and being able to press the throttle and have an instant reaction plus the noise is what appeals to me over a 20vt but P-jay raises an excellent point about the MK5 Golf GTI 2.0 TSFI being same price and well worth considering!
Smooth progress and being able to press the throttle and have an instant reaction plus the noise is what appeals to me over a 20vt but P-jay raises an excellent point about the MK5 Golf GTI 2.0 TSFI being same price and well worth considering!
james239 said:
Had one for just under a year and it is a fantastic car. Certainly powerful (for a 'hot hatch') and the V6 sounds amazing.
It's bloody expensive to run though. I struggle to get 30mpg on a motorway run, and about 20mpg top around town.
I'm impressed you get 20 around town, my average consumption used to be 17, mainly B roads and towns, I got 31 out of her once and that was a 470 mile round trip to sunderland from Cardiff!It's bloody expensive to run though. I struggle to get 30mpg on a motorway run, and about 20mpg top around town.
rhysmoreton said:
Prepare to have very deep pockets, there are cars with 3 times the power better on fuel.
That's just a bit of an exaggeration, as highlighted a R32 with 250hp manages low/mid 20s although I've seen 30s on longer runs in friends cars and my 2.9 VR6s also hover around the mid 20s mark.If you can find me a 700+Hp car that does mid 20s that can be bought for R32 money do pipe up!
side from the cam chain replacement which is circa £1000-1500 at a garage, more if clutch and other parts are replaced at the same time or a complete cam chain failure (i'm rebuilding mine post chain failure right now!) plus the haldex failure (usually due to neglect and not servicing them) I'm struggling to see what other enormous bills that can be thrown up that are any different to the costs on other cars.
In terms of classic status, i think the mk4 is a modern classic already and i cant see them getting any cheaper.
aka_kerrly said:
rhysmoreton said:
Prepare to have very deep pockets, there are cars with 3 times the power better on fuel.
That's just a bit of an exaggeration, as highlighted a R32 with 250hp manages low/mid 20s although I've seen 30s on longer runs in friends cars and my 2.9 VR6s also hover around the mid 20s mark.If you can find me a 700+Hp car that does mid 20s that can be bought for R32 money do pipe up!
side from the cam chain replacement which is circa £1000-1500 at a garage, more if clutch and other parts are replaced at the same time or a complete cam chain failure (i'm rebuilding mine post chain failure right now!) plus the haldex failure (usually due to neglect and not servicing them) I'm struggling to see what other enormous bills that can be thrown up that are any different to the costs on other cars.
In terms of classic status, i think the mk4 is a modern classic already and i cant see them getting any cheaper.
I see what you mean, for reference a good friend of mine went from a R32 Golf to a E46 BMW M3 because of the comments like yours.
He'd only ever needed to do routine servicing on his R32 and sold it because he was dreading having to shell out for cam chain. As you say on paper a M3 looks like same running costs until he needed new front discs and an inspection 2 which made a cam chain not so scary!!
He'd only ever needed to do routine servicing on his R32 and sold it because he was dreading having to shell out for cam chain. As you say on paper a M3 looks like same running costs until he needed new front discs and an inspection 2 which made a cam chain not so scary!!
aka_kerrly said:
I see what you mean, for reference a good friend of mine went from a R32 Golf to a E46 BMW M3 because of the comments like yours.
He'd only ever needed to do routine servicing on his R32 and sold it because he was dreading having to shell out for cam chain. As you say on paper a M3 looks like same running costs until he needed new front discs and an inspection 2 which made a cam chain not so scary!!
I've had a mk4 and mk5 R32, loved both very much, oozes character, and it's noise is lovely. BUT, if I could do it again? I'd probably get an M3! He'd only ever needed to do routine servicing on his R32 and sold it because he was dreading having to shell out for cam chain. As you say on paper a M3 looks like same running costs until he needed new front discs and an inspection 2 which made a cam chain not so scary!!
The contemporary reviews of the Mk4 weren't as flattering for the Mk5. I went for a Mk5 R32 because it's simply a newer car.
Either way, don't be fooled by talk of them being slow or epic running costs. 0-100 in 15s isn't slow and mixed driving will net you north of 25mpg.
Just think of an R32 as like an acoustic guitar or steel-framed bike. The more modern alternatives are more effective at doing some things, but if you want character...
Either way, don't be fooled by talk of them being slow or epic running costs. 0-100 in 15s isn't slow and mixed driving will net you north of 25mpg.
Just think of an R32 as like an acoustic guitar or steel-framed bike. The more modern alternatives are more effective at doing some things, but if you want character...
Basil Hume said:
The contemporary reviews of the Mk4 weren't as flattering for the Mk5. I went for a Mk5 R32 because it's simply a newer car.
Either way, don't be fooled by talk of them being slow or epic running costs. 0-100 in 15s isn't slow and mixed driving will net you north of 25mpg.
Just think of an R32 as like an acoustic guitar or steel-framed bike. The more modern alternatives are more effective at doing some things, but if you want character...
The r32 is a great car, but losing the value, the mk 4 , I could imagine being worth £2000 in 3 years time , the s2000 would hold it's value better if not go up in value. Either way, don't be fooled by talk of them being slow or epic running costs. 0-100 in 15s isn't slow and mixed driving will net you north of 25mpg.
Just think of an R32 as like an acoustic guitar or steel-framed bike. The more modern alternatives are more effective at doing some things, but if you want character...
smallsmalls81 said:
The r32 is a great car, but losing the value, the mk 4 , I could imagine being worth £2000 in 3 years time , the s2000 would hold it's value better if not go up in value.
I very much doubt that they will get to £2k, they will be broken up for parts/engine conversions if they do..I wouldn't complain though if you could pick up a R32 for £2k, i'd get a couple.
smallsmalls81 said:
ManOpener said:
Comparing an R32 to an S2000 seems a bit strange to me. Very different cars.
The r32 more practical , for transporting things , the s2000 more of a weekend car.I had a MKV R32. Looking back, I wish I'd bought the GTI instead.
It's true what the journos said at the time: the R32 feels like a premium product, but ultimately it's no quicker than its GTI sibling and more expensive to run.
Yes it sounds good, but the noise doesn't translate into forward momentum. Similarly, the 4WD saved my bacon, once. Otherwise I just felt like I was needlessly lugging around another diff 99% of the time.
Great looking cars (both MKIV & V), but I reckon there's more fun to be had from a MKV GTI.
It's true what the journos said at the time: the R32 feels like a premium product, but ultimately it's no quicker than its GTI sibling and more expensive to run.
Yes it sounds good, but the noise doesn't translate into forward momentum. Similarly, the 4WD saved my bacon, once. Otherwise I just felt like I was needlessly lugging around another diff 99% of the time.
Great looking cars (both MKIV & V), but I reckon there's more fun to be had from a MKV GTI.
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