Bleeding insurance companies
Bleeding insurance companies
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Original Poster:

18,707 posts

215 months

Friday 9th May 2014
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Need to get a new policy as I take a car outside the business. All NBC is in the business.

Ring lv who instantly agree to honour NBC earned in the company.

Result is a premium that is 2/3rds the previous for a car 7 times the value.

Put here for Loon, as I regally complain about insurance companies and should show some balance.

LoonR1

26,988 posts

208 months

Friday 9th May 2014
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smile

TwigtheWonderkid

49,250 posts

181 months

Friday 9th May 2014
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Bloody insurers...the previous one was ripping you off! hehe

nipsips

1,167 posts

166 months

Sunday 11th May 2014
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Nice to see someone who is posting something positive smile

IanA2

2,897 posts

193 months

Sunday 11th May 2014
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I'm with the NFU, afraid the only the things I can say about them are positive. Better shut up then rolleyes

StuntmanMike

15,390 posts

182 months

Sunday 11th May 2014
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My car insurence dropped 100 pounds to 160 fully comp, my pet insurence has just paided up to about 3.5 thousand pounds worth of operation and after care on my dog, that was a 14 pound a month policy, TBH I have always been very cynical about them, this year though, money well spent.

littleredrooster

6,415 posts

227 months

Sunday 11th May 2014
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What is NBC?

Blue Oval84

5,397 posts

192 months

Sunday 11th May 2014
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littleredrooster said:
What is NBC?
Oh for god's sake, it's not that hard is it?

IanA2

2,897 posts

193 months

Sunday 11th May 2014
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littleredrooster said:
What is NBC?
Have a guess....

littleredrooster

6,415 posts

227 months

Sunday 11th May 2014
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Blue Oval84 said:
littleredrooster said:
What is NBC?
Oh for god's sake, it's not that hard is it?
No. Nuclear, biological and chemical protection suits. Can't unnerstand wot it's got to do with insurence though. [sic]

anonymous-user

85 months

Sunday 11th May 2014
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NFU, hmmm.

Have been insured with them, their prices are astronomical, they have been at least £500 more expensive than other insurers, I know their customer service is a lot better than the run of the mill insurers but is it worth £500 extra?

And to boot they have started phoning up trying to push their financial services other than insurance, wkERS!!!

ging84

9,548 posts

177 months

Sunday 11th May 2014
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i'm not sure how you intend to bleed an insurance company dry by taking out insurance and paying your premiums
seems like the opposite of bleeding them dry.

IanA2

2,897 posts

193 months

Sunday 11th May 2014
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gottans said:
NFU, hmmm.

Have been insured with them, their prices are astronomical, they have been at least £500 more expensive than other insurers, I know their customer service is a lot better than the run of the mill insurers but is it worth £500 extra?

And to boot they have started phoning up trying to push their financial services other than insurance, wkERS!!!
I find their prices are about 10% ish more. But that is well worth paying for their fabulous customer service. There are certain risks/cars they do not like to quote on, but if pushed they will give you a go away price.

LoonR1

26,988 posts

208 months

Sunday 11th May 2014
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IanA2 said:
I find their prices are about 10% ish more. But that is well worth paying for their fabulous customer service. There are certain risks/cars they do not like to quote on, but if pushed they will give you a go away price.
That is a very referencing outlook on insurance and to be applauded.

anonymous-user

85 months

Sunday 11th May 2014
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When they took on my S4 the price was reasonable but upon renewal they kept bumping the premium up until it got to nearly a grand.

Dealing with their agents is very good but experience of the central claims last year was a shocking example of incompetance and buffoonery. They upset my elderly mother with their rude letters, the claim was passed around like a warm turd and took ages to settle. Most people think they are wonderful but probably haven't dealt with their claims department, believe it has been subbed out to the RAC... It is a very different company to what it used to be.

IanA2

2,897 posts

193 months

Sunday 11th May 2014
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gottans said:
When they took on my S4 the price was reasonable but upon renewal they kept bumping the premium up until it got to nearly a grand.

Dealing with their agents is very good but experience of the central claims last year was a shocking example of incompetance and buffoonery. They upset my elderly mother with their rude letters, the claim was passed around like a warm turd and took ages to settle. Most people think they are wonderful but probably haven't dealt with their claims department, believe it has been subbed out to the RAC... It is a very different company to what it used to be.
That's certainly not my experience with the NFU, and the last time I spoke to them about a non-fault claim (roughly ten months ago) they were certainly dealing with everything in-house. I simply do not recognise the organisation you describe.

I have my SL60AMG with Aviva because it's a car outside of their comfort zone. Even at their worst, Aviva have been better that the organisation you describe.

hidetheelephants

36,401 posts

224 months

Monday 12th May 2014
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LoonR1 said:
IanA2 said:
I find their prices are about 10% ish more. But that is well worth paying for their fabulous customer service. There are certain risks/cars they do not like to quote on, but if pushed they will give you a go away price.
That is a very referencing outlook on insurance and to be applauded.
Out of interest I just asked NFU to quote for my landrover, as it's vaguely agricultural and I live in the sticks; a sharp intake of breath was required as the offer was just over twice what Muddled gave me. The bloke on the phone was very polite about it though, so they train their phone jockeys well.

LoonR1

26,988 posts

208 months

Monday 12th May 2014
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hidetheelephants said:
LoonR1 said:
IanA2 said:
I find their prices are about 10% ish more. But that is well worth paying for their fabulous customer service. There are certain risks/cars they do not like to quote on, but if pushed they will give you a go away price.
That is a very referencing outlook on insurance and to be applauded.
Out of interest I just asked NFU to quote for my landrover, as it's vaguely agricultural and I live in the sticks; a sharp intake of breath was required as the offer was just over twice what Muddled gave me. The bloke on the phone was very polite about it though, so they train their phone jockeys well.
And you've demonstrated the other more prevalent attitude, that being that your sole driver for buying is price. No other reference to anything in your post.

Dog Star

17,645 posts

199 months

Monday 12th May 2014
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nipsips said:
Nice to see someone who is posting something positive smile
Indeed - I had my R1 stolen at the beginning of April.
I then put a deposit down on a more expensive, higher insurance group bike and had a bit of a shocker when my premiums went up by a factor of EIGHT yikes (30 claim free years until one theft claim; a bit harsh, I thought).

So I called a specialist broker who quoted me £1765, but who said "hang on, this isn't really fair at all, given your past biking history, your new security arrangements etc" so they referred it to the underwriter.

The nice lady called me back that afternoon and I almost fell off my chair when she quoted me a premium which was about what I'd have expected to pay in the first place biggrin.

This is where a proper broker who knows their market and will work for their customer really comes into their own; the online quotes systems cannot handle this kind of situation where you need some common sense and a "human" approach.

hidetheelephants

36,401 posts

224 months

Monday 12th May 2014
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LoonR1 said:
hidetheelephants said:
LoonR1 said:
IanA2 said:
I find their prices are about 10% ish more. But that is well worth paying for their fabulous customer service. There are certain risks/cars they do not like to quote on, but if pushed they will give you a go away price.
That is a very referencing outlook on insurance and to be applauded.
Out of interest I just asked NFU to quote for my landrover, as it's vaguely agricultural and I live in the sticks; a sharp intake of breath was required as the offer was just over twice what Muddled gave me. The bloke on the phone was very polite about it though, so they train their phone jockeys well.
And you've demonstrated the other more prevalent attitude, that being that your sole driver for buying is price. No other reference to anything in your post.
As it happens I'd have been happy if they could have got within +25% as they have such a good reputation and more importantly don't charge for admin or other footling nonsense, but +110% is well beyond that point. I did ask if there was any movement available and explained what the best Muddled quote was, but he said not.