LED vs. Xenon systems?
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caraddict

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1,092 posts

173 months

Saturday 10th May 2014
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Anyone here tried both systems, on BMW or other cars?

We're getting out first new car and for the BMW we're considering the LED's are optional (pricey!) but the Xenon is standard. We have always had traditional halogen headlights in our cars so any xenon system will be a big step up anyway, but I thought I should ask if we'll miss out on something without the LED system.
It will be combined with the "active headlights" system either way.

adsvx220

705 posts

212 months

Saturday 10th May 2014
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I'm quite sure the LED's are for the angel eye DRL.

The BMW will have Xenons with a white/yellow angel eye DRL as standard. As an option the LED will be a more blue light which IMO looks more prestige.

I stupidly didn't spec Xenons on our new car which was delivered last week.

adsvx220

705 posts

212 months

Saturday 10th May 2014
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LED



Standard!!


Spoof

1,854 posts

244 months

Saturday 10th May 2014
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LED are now used as the main headlights too chaps.

Google BMW or Audi adaptive LED headlights, it's very impressive what they can do in theory.

Spoof

1,854 posts

244 months

Saturday 10th May 2014
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I'll save you the google...

BMW LED headlights : http://youtu.be/-dvPZ3H1Vm4

Audi LED lights : http://youtu.be/75qDwbsT9iY

I've no idea if they're any good. But they're coo as feck,

AREA

497 posts

254 months

Saturday 10th May 2014
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Had both xenon and LED (xenon on first gen MB CLS, LED on current version).

Xenons are good but...
... LEDs are just amazing. The colour of the light is so natural, the spread perfect and with intelligent lighting their ability to illuminate exactly what you need is outstanding.

LEDs are to Xenons as the Xenons were to old fashioned bulbs.


(but lasers are on their way which'll push LEDs back into the candle age)

adsvx220

705 posts

212 months

Saturday 10th May 2014
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Pretty cool and very nice!! It's impressive how they get so much light from led.

parabolica

7,009 posts

213 months

Saturday 10th May 2014
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Spoof said:
I'll save you the google...

BMW LED headlights : http://youtu.be/-dvPZ3H1Vm4

Audi LED lights : http://youtu.be/75qDwbsT9iY

I've no idea if they're any good. But they're coo as feck,
Wow; I didn't realise they were as smart as that!

CJP80

1,100 posts

177 months

Saturday 10th May 2014
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adsvx220 said:
I'm quite sure the LED's are for the angel eye DRL.

The BMW will have Xenons with a white/yellow angel eye DRL as standard. As an option the LED will be a more blue light which IMO looks more prestige.

I stupidly didn't spec Xenons on our new car which was delivered last week.
All new beamers with xenons have a blue tinge drl. It's the older cars that have a halogen angel eye.

CJP80

1,100 posts

177 months

Saturday 10th May 2014
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[quote=adsvx220]LED



Standard!!

Not LEDs.

These are:


Darkslider

3,084 posts

218 months

Saturday 10th May 2014
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Interesting video, but am I the only one foreseeing a few years down the line when cars fitted with adaptive lights like the BMW are on the second hand market and a headlight fails? The cost is going to be extortionate with that much computing power in them, yet another gadget that is going to result in cars being written off sooner.

Amazing technology nonetheless and I still applaud BMW/Audi et al for pushing the boundaries of what's possible. Got to be significantly less energy consumption than current filament bulbs also.

marting

668 posts

203 months

Saturday 10th May 2014
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Darkslider said:
Interesting video, but am I the only one foreseeing a few years down the line when cars fitted with adaptive lights like the BMW are on the second hand market and a headlight fails? The cost is going to be extortionate with that much computing power in them, yet another gadget that is going to result in cars being written off sooner.

Amazing technology nonetheless and I still applaud BMW/Audi et al for pushing the boundaries of what's possible. Got to be significantly less energy consumption than current filament bulbs also.
Years down the line the technology won't cost an arm and a leg and you'll be able to nip down the breakers for a replacement wink

David87

7,018 posts

241 months

Saturday 10th May 2014
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Indeed, Bi-LED headlamps are really quite exceptional. Bi-Xenons can be excellent, but LEDs are most certainly a big step forward. Frickin' lasers are next. biggrin

Max M4X WW

5,027 posts

211 months

Saturday 10th May 2014
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CJP80 said:
adsvx220 said:
LED



Standard!!

Not LEDs.

These are:

They both are? They have the flat things in the middle instead of Xenon projectors.

parabolica

7,009 posts

213 months

Saturday 10th May 2014
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Darkslider said:
Interesting video, but am I the only one foreseeing a few years down the line when cars fitted with adaptive lights like the BMW are on the second hand market and a headlight fails? The cost is going to be extortionate with that much computing power in them, yet another gadget that is going to result in cars being written off sooner.

Amazing technology nonetheless and I still applaud BMW/Audi et al for pushing the boundaries of what's possible. Got to be significantly less energy consumption than current filament bulbs also.
People were saying the same thing when adaptive headlights first came out. I haven't noticed a huge rush of people complaining about them failing. Tech is getting more and more reliable, even stuff that is pioneering.

HumbleJim

28,951 posts

212 months

Saturday 10th May 2014
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marting said:
Darkslider said:
Interesting video, but am I the only one foreseeing a few years down the line when cars fitted with adaptive lights like the BMW are on the second hand market and a headlight fails? The cost is going to be extortionate with that much computing power in them, yet another gadget that is going to result in cars being written off sooner.

Amazing technology nonetheless and I still applaud BMW/Audi et al for pushing the boundaries of what's possible. Got to be significantly less energy consumption than current filament bulbs also.
Years down the line the technology won't cost an arm and a leg and you'll be able to nip down the breakers for a replacement wink
Have you tried coding some of this stuff! Manufacturers are trying to stop swapping parts.

CJP80

1,100 posts

177 months

Saturday 10th May 2014
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Max M4X WW said:
They both are? They have the flat things in the middle instead of Xenon projectors.
My 3 series has adaptive xenons with the same reflectors. The led headlamps have led indicators too, which are absent from the top pic.

Andehh

7,593 posts

235 months

Saturday 10th May 2014
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HumbleJim said:
marting said:
Darkslider said:
Interesting video, but am I the only one foreseeing a few years down the line when cars fitted with adaptive lights like the BMW are on the second hand market and a headlight fails? The cost is going to be extortionate with that much computing power in them, yet another gadget that is going to result in cars being written off sooner.

Amazing technology nonetheless and I still applaud BMW/Audi et al for pushing the boundaries of what's possible. Got to be significantly less energy consumption than current filament bulbs also.
Years down the line the technology won't cost an arm and a leg and you'll be able to nip down the breakers for a replacement wink
Have you tried coding some of this stuff! Manufacturers are trying to stop swapping parts.
Can't even replace the battery without re-coding it in on new BMWs! frown

Dave Hedgehog

16,313 posts

233 months

Saturday 10th May 2014
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i have bi HIDs on my car but the RS6 i borrowed had LEDs

the difference between LEDs and HIDs is a big as HIDs and 1960s normal head lights

they are just amazing, a must option for me to spec from now on even if they are not active

-Z-

8,301 posts

235 months

Saturday 10th May 2014
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parabolica said:
Spoof said:
I'll save you the google...

BMW LED headlights : http://youtu.be/-dvPZ3H1Vm4

Audi LED lights : http://youtu.be/75qDwbsT9iY

I've no idea if they're any good. But they're coo as feck,
Wow; I didn't realise they were as smart as that!
The dancing headlight tech is available with the cheaper BMW Xenon's and is just as amazing as the video. Slightly distracting at first though because you spend your time marveling at this moving black hole in front of you.

The effect is more pronounced in real life than the video shows.