Car running too cool!
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Corin Denton

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8,762 posts

297 months

Wednesday 1st December 2004
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Coming back from Southampton on Sunday I noticed when I got home the engine temp was only 55, should I change my otter or Thermostat for winter?

RossMac

856 posts

270 months

Wednesday 1st December 2004
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Corin Denton said:
Coming back from Southampton on Sunday I noticed when I got home the engine temp was only 55, should I change my otter or Thermostat for winter?


swap for mine? See my post below

Corin Denton

Original Poster:

8,762 posts

297 months

Wednesday 1st December 2004
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RossMac said:

Corin Denton said:
Coming back from Southampton on Sunday I noticed when I got home the engine temp was only 55, should I change my otter or Thermostat for winter?



swap for mine? See my post below



That's going from one extreme to the other, bloody car will end up with flu!

shpub

8,507 posts

301 months

Thursday 2nd December 2004
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No just block off some of the air flow to the rad through the front grill... see cooling chapter in bible for details and discussion.

Cheaper and easier than changing otters etc.

GreenV8S

31,014 posts

313 months

Thursday 2nd December 2004
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Too cool implies a faulty/missing thermostat. You can hide the symptoms by blocking off the rad, but this isn't a very good solution as it means the cooling system is effectively uncontrolled, you would get as much cooling as you get airflow regardless of whether this is more or less than you need. Faulty stats often fail in the 'half open' position so a stat that doesn't close properly may also prevent you from getting full cooling when you need it. Better to fix the fault by replacing the stat.

Some people like to drill a small hole through the stat to introduce a deliberate leak, this makes it easier to bleed but means that even when the stat is nominally closed there is still some water flow through the rad. In very cold conditions when the engine is lightly loaded, even this tiny flow can be enough to overcool the engine. If you expect to spend a lot of time in freezing conditions then you need to make sure the thermostat seals properly and hasn't got any extra holes drilled in it. If it's only once or twice a year then you might decide to put up with it.

shpub

8,507 posts

301 months

Thursday 2nd December 2004
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Even if the stat is OK and with no holes in it... this is quite common and is caused by the air flow cooling the front of the engine... including the temp sensor which then gives a cooler value.



Corin Denton

Original Poster:

8,762 posts

297 months

Thursday 2nd December 2004
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I might just try the thermostat just out interest as I haven't looked at it on the new one.

Thanks for the valuable input guys!

shnozz

30,628 posts

300 months

Thursday 2nd December 2004
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I run too cool 99% of the time. You get used to it.

crankedup

25,764 posts

272 months

Thursday 2nd December 2004
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Yes I concur with SHPUB, I drove my Woseley 1500 home from Barking to Southend one late night in middle of winter. Could'nt get heater to work at all and inside windscreen froze solid

Had to stop and found that the whole radiator had froze solid Blanked it off with cardboard and run the engine till it was working proper again and made my way home.

This was 35 years ago - some things never change

Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

290 months

Thursday 2nd December 2004
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GreenV8S said:
If you expect to spend a lot of time in freezing conditions .......



Yup that'll be Plymouth then

Couple of cardboard boxes from Trago'll do the trick - look better on the outside of the bodywork though.....


Actually good advice Peter

chimburt

751 posts

288 months

Thursday 2nd December 2004
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think twice about using cardboard though.
gets wet, goes through grill, into rad and sticks

_dan_

2,392 posts

308 months

Thursday 2nd December 2004
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When I first bought mine a couple of years ago the temp (esp in the winter) always read between 55 and 70. Never getting any hotter. Couldn't really understand it.

Then one day sitting in traffic noticed it suddenly jumped up 20 degrees or so, then back down, then up and so on.

Eventually it settled in the 20 degrees higher position (which I believe to be the correct reading) and has stayed there since. I guess the temp sensor was just a bit sticky for a while.

Now the fans come on at an indicated 89ish degrees (which I think is correct).

One way of checking is to see what your readout is showing when the fans click on, as the otter switch is seperate to the temp sensor.

>> Edited by _dan_ on Thursday 2nd December 18:12

B16 RFF

883 posts

296 months

Thursday 2nd December 2004
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I had this problem last Spring. I called at my local dealer to buy a thermostat, but the workshop manager advised me to change the gauge temp sensor, as this is a common problem. On a serpentine it lives behind the distributor and is almost impossible to see without taking the dizzy cap off.
This immediately cured the low readings on the gauge.
Make sure you get the correct one for your engine as serp and pre-serp are different. Cost was about a tenner. BTW don't confuse it with the temp sensor for the injection.

Paul.

david beer

3,982 posts

296 months

Thursday 2nd December 2004
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The temp sender does get cold,its on a bit of old pipe, that doesnt quite reach the water. If you have the spare sender on the top of the head, use that as its in water.It will give different readings, but the original guage is hardly telling the whole story.

Boosted LS1

21,200 posts

289 months

Thursday 2nd December 2004
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chimburt said:
think twice about using cardboard though.
gets wet, goes through grill, into rad and sticks


Good tip, ever thought of a job at Practical Classics

Boosted.

Corin Denton

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8,762 posts

297 months

Thursday 2nd December 2004
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Boosted LS1 said:

chimburt said:
think twice about using cardboard though.
gets wet, goes through grill, into rad and sticks



Good tip, ever thought of a job at Practical Classics

Boosted.


Even better tip for me - no grill!

19560

14,332 posts

287 months

Thursday 2nd December 2004
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_dan_ said:
Now the fans come on at an indicated 89ish degrees (which I think is correct).

Ideal temp is generally thought to be 92 and fans on at about 98.

19560

14,332 posts

287 months

Thursday 2nd December 2004
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chimburt said:
think twice about using cardboard though.
gets wet, goes through grill, into rad and sticks

Silver foil is better, wrapped around hardboard if necessary.

GreenV8S

31,014 posts

313 months

Thursday 2nd December 2004
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Or cardboard in a bin liner, or just fix the stat.

19560

14,332 posts

287 months

Thursday 2nd December 2004
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GreenV8S said:
Or cardboard in a bin liner.

When the rad. warms up the bin liner will melt onto the rad..