Should I buy a Boxster with Ceramics?
Should I buy a Boxster with Ceramics?
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petestorey

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121 posts

285 months

Sunday 11th May 2014
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Looking for a latest model Boxster S, this one looks quite nice - http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p... - and it's got the PCCM brakes on it.

I've never seen a Boxster with them on before - does at least fill the wheels a bit better, but does anyone know if theyre any good, if they have any problems or anything? It's a bit more than I want to spend on one, but I've liked the ceramics on the modern Ferraris I've driven - a lot better than the older gen ones - so wondering if the Boxster spec ones are decent. Anyone know?

tali1

5,286 posts

230 months

Sunday 11th May 2014
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Fifth Gear did comparison with 2 Boxsters ceramic and standard.Vid seems not online
Atrader has 47 Porsche with them -42 being 911s

BIRMA

4,270 posts

223 months

Sunday 11th May 2014
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Yes, I have an RS60 with them and they are absolutely sublime. You get so used to them that when you drive another high performance car without them your first thought is 'st this cars got no brakes'. You can brake later than you would possibly imagine with them. I notice the car you want also has PASM.
Before I bought my Boxster I was booked in with a local OPC to try out a 997 911 Turbo the two things it had that left a big impression on me were the PCCB's and PASM and the scary speed it was capable of, so I decided then that they were absolutely necessary on my chosen car.
I still think the 981 with standard discs and 20 inch wheels looks out of proportion despite the fact they are obviously good enough.
On a track day you can brake later than you ever thought possible and so far never boiled them. Watch out when you wash the car as they take a bit of drying, I wouldn't buy another car without them.

Edited by BIRMA on Sunday 11th May 21:54

williaa68

1,540 posts

195 months

Sunday 11th May 2014
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That is a very well specced car! PSE as well as PASM. The red leather is a bit marmite but if you are happy with it and don't think you will need to sell in a hurry then go for it. Nothing in the ad about mileage or service. Check whether it has had its first service and if not negotiate accordingly....

petestorey

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121 posts

285 months

Sunday 11th May 2014
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I like the red so not a problem, seen a few with it. They look dull in black IMHO smile Says 22k miles in the ad, I assume it's been serviced - they're 20k miles I think aren't they so would be a long way past if not. Seems unlikely for a newish Porsche!

BIRMA

4,270 posts

223 months

Sunday 11th May 2014
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The carerra red never photographs well and looks a lot better in the flesh.
The car has a very good spec and exactly what I may be looking for in two years time if I don't have the full Parr turbo conversion done on mine.

stevod

454 posts

169 months

Sunday 11th May 2014
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williaa68 said:
That is a very well specced car!
Indeed - next box to tick was probably leather vent slats.

So it's weird they didn't include climate control. But then I suppose that's what the roof's for.

S

petestorey

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121 posts

285 months

Monday 12th May 2014
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Actually think it's quite sensible - with the roof down you can just control the temp of the air you want. CC on other cars invariably blows freezing or excessively hot air at me, so you then end up changing the temp you want to either cool/warm it, then resetting to 20 when it's done. Noone ever wants a car at 28 degrees but you turn it there when it's cold to try and make it warm up faster smile

Will see if I can get time off later in the week to go see it. Woo.

stefan1

987 posts

261 months

Monday 12th May 2014
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My current and previous Boxster (now owned by a friend) both have ceramics. They are simply excellent. I also have a Cayman R on steel brakes, and there is no comparison - the R feels under braked on track.

The only thing to check when inspecting the car is that there are no chips on the edges of the discs, which can be caused by stone chips or when taking off or putting on the wheels. Two or three chips are ok, but beyond that Porsche recommend replacing the disc. If you acquire the car, be sure to buy the guide rods that screw into the hub to ensure that the wheels don't clip the discs when being removed or fitted.

Overall, a great specification car that will always find a home, even with the bright red leather!

Cheers

cseven

321 posts

265 months

Monday 12th May 2014
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how long do they last and how much for replacing pads and disks?

Do they still suffer from occasional premature failure?

petestorey

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121 posts

285 months

Monday 12th May 2014
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Apparently the discs should last the life of the car, not sure about pads. On my 430 they were normal sort of time scale, and they were slightly more than steel pads but not a lot.

I think/hope the whole failing thing was ages ago - on the 996 IIRC? Everyone else has managed to get them working since then so you'd hope Porsche have done too! Feel fairly happy given the responses above!

Radish

175 posts

157 months

Monday 12th May 2014
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Should have gone to Specsavers.

mm450exc

571 posts

207 months

Monday 12th May 2014
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If you just using it on the road only then yes. If you planning any track days then no.

2nd set of pads lasted 2 days on track on my old 997 turbo.

Moog72

1,600 posts

206 months

Monday 12th May 2014
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Personal taste and all that, but red leather with a blue exterior, not my cuppa tea I'm afraid well spec'd or not

Mutt

1,115 posts

220 months

Monday 12th May 2014
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I am sure the ceramics are excellent on the Boxster, but red leather with blue exterior?! And this from an ex-RS60 owner so I have no objections to red leather.

stevod

454 posts

169 months

Monday 12th May 2014
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^I think the red interior would've been OK with the blue on normal S brakes, i.e. red calipers. The red/blue/yellow combo is one bright colour too many.

clubsportguy

206 posts

161 months

Monday 12th May 2014
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Before you buy ask the Parts dept how much a nice SET of discs are (You can only buy as a pair) ??? When they tell you will need be sitting down !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mm450exc

571 posts

207 months

Monday 12th May 2014
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^ Very true! smile

BIRMA

4,270 posts

223 months

Monday 12th May 2014
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I started a thread some time ago asking if anyone had replaced their PCCB''s and there were very few. I know they are expensive to replace but I decided if I had an extended meeting with the kitty litter on the side of a track I'd buy the very nice steel replacement s and live with the extra weight

mrdemon

21,146 posts

294 months

Monday 12th May 2014
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this,
PCCB is a win win 2nd hand, use till they brake they fit steels but enjoy the 6 pots over the small 4 pots.

6 pots and brembo steels will out brake oem 4 pot set up.