Taking a mtb on a plane - air pressure query
Taking a mtb on a plane - air pressure query
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Rob_T

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1,916 posts

280 months

Sunday 11th May 2014
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We're off to the alps in June and this year we are flying as opposed to driving. Putting the bikes in a bike box and I understand it is common practice to let the air of the tyres when you put bikes on a plane. My question is what about the front forks and rear suspension? Also I have a dropper post that works with air pressure. Shoud I be taking the air out of all these as well?

Sarkmeister

1,700 posts

247 months

Sunday 11th May 2014
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Not sure what you are supposed to do, but I've flown with full suspension bikes and didn't let any air out of the shocks, nothing went wrong. I did let a bit of air out of the tyres though.

47p2

1,897 posts

190 months

Sunday 11th May 2014
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Don't remember ever emptying aerosol cans before packing them in a suitcase

Raven Flyer

1,645 posts

253 months

Sunday 11th May 2014
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The metal walls of the shocks mean they won't know what pressure is outside. Just let your tyres down.

hidetheelephants

35,818 posts

222 months

Monday 12th May 2014
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Raven Flyer said:
The metal walls of the shocks mean they won't know what pressure is outside. Just let your tyres down.
I think I know what you mean, but... rofl

upsidedownmark

2,120 posts

164 months

Monday 12th May 2014
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Quite. The problem is when the pressure differential between the outside and the inside becomes so much that the metal wall stops being there wink

For a slightly more technical answer, the hold is also pressurised (as is the cabin), so will climb to a maximum altitude of something around 8000 feet (maybe 10, unless the plane depressurises) I'd expect that to be well within the capability of the shocks, after all, you can get that high on a mountain! Frankly, not a concern, but you could drop the air pressure and pump it up when you get there if worried..

s p a c e m a n

12,078 posts

177 months

Monday 12th May 2014
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Can't you ship pets in cargo holds, or is that not passenger aeroplanes?

Would I have to let some air of of my dog to stop her popping? yikes

upsidedownmark

2,120 posts

164 months

Monday 12th May 2014
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Pets, like humans are somewhat permeable, that's why they don't pop wink

(They just pass out through lack of oxygen)

Which is why the aeroplane is pressurised. As is the hold mostly 'cos it's easier to make a mostly round tube withstand the pressure differential, than it is to make the floor strong enough to not pressurise the hold! Your cabin altitude in cruise is generally somewhere around 8000ft (approx), we work fine at that alt, pressurising to sea-level would put more strain on everything (greater pressure differential), and mean everything had to be built more strongly, etc..

T1berious

2,669 posts

184 months

Monday 12th May 2014
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Flown a few times with my hardtail and the Mrs Full sus, all we've ever done is take the air out the tyres.

You should be fine smile


Raven Flyer

1,645 posts

253 months

Monday 12th May 2014
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Even with no hold pressurisation it would only add 15psi to the pressure on the tyre wall or shock canisters.

walm

10,644 posts

231 months

Monday 12th May 2014
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Raven Flyer said:
Even with no hold pressurisation it would only add 15psi to the pressure on the tyre wall or shock canisters.
You have almost redeemed your earlier comedy post!!
But not quite.
Aircraft don't quite reach beyond the atmosphere so there is still SOME air pressure at 36,000 ft (but not much). About 3psi.
So it would add 12psi to your tyres.

With cabin pressure the equivalent of 8,000ft in height or so it adds about 4psi.

So don't panic.
If your gauge is reading accurately to +/- 4 psi I would be surprised frankly.

anonymous-user

83 months

Monday 12th May 2014
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Indeed, the typical air spring in a shock or fork works at between 60psi and 250psi, which is 5 to about 15 bar. Reduced air pressure with altitude, is only ever equal to 1 atmosphere, so the sealing system will be completely unaffected!

Stedman

7,463 posts

221 months

Monday 12th May 2014
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No need to do the shocks when I flew to Morzine. Enjoy!

Pablo16v

2,912 posts

226 months

Tuesday 13th May 2014
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I've flown with bikes quite a few times and I've never touched the shocks, but tyres are let down a few psi. Now packing the bike so that it survives the baggage handlers.....that's always more of a worry.

P-Jay

11,405 posts

220 months

Tuesday 13th May 2014
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Flown loads of times with my Bike, the whole air pressure thing is right up there with X-ray machines ruining camera film, it just doesn't happen.

My advice, pack your wheel with the discs on the inside to stop the worst ravages of the bag throwers and arrive early at the airport, it's a bit faffy with bikes, you sort of check-in twice (once for you, and again at the over-size luggage desk) at the other end don't bother rushing to get your bags at the carousel, it just makes the wait at the over-size luggage collection even longer.

Rob_T

Original Poster:

1,916 posts

280 months

Tuesday 13th May 2014
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thanks for the feedback.

we've hired some hard cases so hopefully damages will be minimised!

Sandersports

181 posts

218 months

Tuesday 13th May 2014
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I forgot to let the tyres down last week when i flew home on a 4Hr flight ... Both tubes were still intact when i got home and still had 120psi in them !

lukefreeman

1,502 posts

204 months

Tuesday 13th May 2014
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Had this battle with an check in lady once.

I told her that she must tell the pilot to let down his tyres on his plane too, or we'll all die.

She let me on in the end without letting them down....

HowMuchLonger

3,041 posts

222 months

Tuesday 13th May 2014
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I can't believe you don't book an extra seat on the plane for your bike.