Is the Nissan 370Z underrated?
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It's not often talked about, not even here. It rarely appears in comparisons in car mags. It's rarely even mentioned in "What to buy" threads on any car forums. From reports I've read it doesn't sell well. Is it because too many people think it's a lardy GT car? Or just too expensive for a Nissan that isn't a GTR and people prefer to buy used Caymans?
Maybe that's only mine impression?
Maybe that's only mine impression?
Not sure what track it is, but according to Evo lap times it lapped as quick as an Evora and Supercharged Elise, and quicker than a M3 CSL. That's not too shoddy.
http://www.howfast.co.uk/Evo-Leaderboard.aspx
http://www.howfast.co.uk/Evo-Leaderboard.aspx
If I were after a brand new, fairly reasonably priced sports car, the 370Z would be at, or near the top of my list. I personally think it's a nicer looking car than the 350Z, and a nice, large, NA engine is going to become more and more rare in years to come 
Its successor will probably have a turbo 4 pot.
Its successor will probably have a turbo 4 pot. I think its an interesting car with a fat butt, beefy driving experience and fun , It feels quite heavy but well balanced but the killer for me is £500 road tax ! a car needs to be properly special to justify paying that each year ! and It does not quite have that Kudos ! I reckon values would hold a lot better if it was in the lower band , OK you can argue your saving money on the car but you will still have the hassle of selling it to people who have the same concerns !
George7 said:
If I were after a brand new, fairly reasonably priced sports car, the 370Z would be at, or near the top of my list. I personally think it's a nicer looking car than the 350Z, and a nice, large, NA engine is going to become more and more rare in years to come Its successor will probably have a turbo 4 pot.
Depreciation would be a killer though - I hired a 350Z and loved it, back in 2004, so I also fail to understand why the 350 did so well and the 370 more or less vanished - I see far more 911s than I do 370s. Its successor will probably have a turbo 4 pot. Actus Reus said:
Depreciation would be a killer though - I hired a 350Z and loved it, back in 2004, so I also fail to understand why the 350 did so well and the 370 more or less vanished - I see far more 911s than I do 370s.
I suspect it's because the 350Z came in when road tax and emissions was less of an issue. Plus the majority of people think that an Audi A5 diesel is a better car for teh money than a 370Z because it has the image....In fairness an A5 is probably more useful to most people, especially those who have kids or need boot space (the 350 had that strut brace across its boot which was a right old pain).
I reckon I've seen no more than 4 or 5 370s on the road ever, though one was a brand new Nismo just last October on the Channel Tunnel. Not a bad looking car, but somehow didn't impress me as much as the 350 did when it came out. I lived in Germany when I borrowed one and it literally drew crowds in a McDonalds car park.
I reckon I've seen no more than 4 or 5 370s on the road ever, though one was a brand new Nismo just last October on the Channel Tunnel. Not a bad looking car, but somehow didn't impress me as much as the 350 did when it came out. I lived in Germany when I borrowed one and it literally drew crowds in a McDonalds car park.
I have a 350 Roadster, I just put £40 a month into an account via a standing order so the VED isnt such a shock, the insurance is only £274 a year, it doesnt seem to be depreciating at any rate, in fact they seem to be up for more than when I bought it last Sept, and I got a good deal.
Fuel economy is 20 mpg on Super, but I do short journies as a rule and dont drive it for economy.
They are heavy but I think a lot of the feeling of heft is from the controls, our Ford Galaxy feels lighter to drive but weighs more, my old MK2 Golf didnt have PAS and that felt heavy, my 944 had fairly heavy controls, some of it comes from actual weight I think, but not all. Plus it is heavy and N/A, so no turbo helping you along with a big wadge of torque, thats not to say it isnt a torquey engine and it will happily bimble around in a high gear at low revs but there isnt that effortless, magical shove you get from a decent turbo motor, you have to wind it out if you want to access all 300 or so bhp.
I think the GTR overshadows the 370Z a bit, but they are less than half the price.
The 350Z is a quick car, certainly not slow but its in a bit of a no mans land performance wise, there with the faster hot hatches rather than stuff like M3's, on track they seem to do fairly well as the figues show but really it isnt their natrual environment, its a GT-ish car that will do slidy antics, which, I dont care how fast a hot hatch is, you are denied the basic joy of exiting a quiet junction sideways through first and second, I would rather have a bottom rung GT than top rung hot fwd hatch.
I think Nissan should have given it a bit more, they were a bit stingy with the BHP, but when it came out they didnt want it nipping at the R34 GTR's heels, in the dry, in a straight line anyway.
Fuel economy is 20 mpg on Super, but I do short journies as a rule and dont drive it for economy.
They are heavy but I think a lot of the feeling of heft is from the controls, our Ford Galaxy feels lighter to drive but weighs more, my old MK2 Golf didnt have PAS and that felt heavy, my 944 had fairly heavy controls, some of it comes from actual weight I think, but not all. Plus it is heavy and N/A, so no turbo helping you along with a big wadge of torque, thats not to say it isnt a torquey engine and it will happily bimble around in a high gear at low revs but there isnt that effortless, magical shove you get from a decent turbo motor, you have to wind it out if you want to access all 300 or so bhp.
I think the GTR overshadows the 370Z a bit, but they are less than half the price.
The 350Z is a quick car, certainly not slow but its in a bit of a no mans land performance wise, there with the faster hot hatches rather than stuff like M3's, on track they seem to do fairly well as the figues show but really it isnt their natrual environment, its a GT-ish car that will do slidy antics, which, I dont care how fast a hot hatch is, you are denied the basic joy of exiting a quiet junction sideways through first and second, I would rather have a bottom rung GT than top rung hot fwd hatch.
I think Nissan should have given it a bit more, they were a bit stingy with the BHP, but when it came out they didnt want it nipping at the R34 GTR's heels, in the dry, in a straight line anyway.
Bloke economics says £500 = a few tanks of fuel, a few monthly shops, a few nights out. Over one year.
That's how I squared the VED in my head when I paid that for my Mazda CX-7
Plus isn't the way you pay going to change soon? You'll be able to pay monthly or something. Just add that to the monthly running costs.
Its man maths at work here so I am probably taking b
ks.
That's how I squared the VED in my head when I paid that for my Mazda CX-7
Plus isn't the way you pay going to change soon? You'll be able to pay monthly or something. Just add that to the monthly running costs.
Its man maths at work here so I am probably taking b
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