New measures to ban radar detectors
New measures to ban radar detectors
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iaint

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10,040 posts

267 months

Thursday 2nd December 2004
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Apologies if this is already posted but can't search for it as the toolbar doesn't appear at work!

www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/articles/15019158?source=Evening%20Standard

There's a link to place a vote on this...

BliarOut

72,863 posts

268 months

Thursday 2nd December 2004
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only 67% at the moment.... come on boys and girls, we need your vote

swilly

9,699 posts

303 months

Thursday 2nd December 2004
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Still 67%

Mrs Fish

30,018 posts

287 months

Thursday 2nd December 2004
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Still on 67%

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

284 months

Thursday 2nd December 2004
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.......68%

Note GPS devices not to be banned.

gh0st

4,693 posts

287 months

Thursday 2nd December 2004
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Same as before.

I noticed that the paper is wrong by saying they will be banning all devices that emit radar



Dont know anyone with radar emmitors. Personally I have one that emits light...

So same as before - when targetted, check speed, SWITCH OFF, let them get reading, everyone is happy

medicineman

1,822 posts

266 months

Thursday 2nd December 2004
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Hang on don't gatso's emit radar? Are they to be banned then? I see that once again the road "safety" see this as a good idea. What reducing 7% if deaths? Why is drink driving also now always lumped with speeding? I also see the penalty for "Failing to identify driver" is to go up to 6 points.

havoc

33,371 posts

264 months

Thursday 2nd December 2004
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"Failing to identify driver" is a crime, and now more serious than speeding!

Old saw, I know, but "right not to incriminate yourself" clearly doesn't apply to taxees, sorry, "motorists". To scumbags and all other classes of criminal, yes, but not to those despicable motorists!

cooperman

4,428 posts

279 months

Thursday 2nd December 2004
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But what will the penalty be for using a laser jammer?
Obviously you can't ban a GPS based camera location device as the information is already in the public domain, and the camera Pratnerships publish locations anyway in many cases.
Of more concern should be the failure to identify. It means that if someone genuinly does not know, they will really have to name someone to avoid risking a 6-pointer rather than just 3. This is a bloody disgrace and something we should really fight as strongly as possible. This really is demanding a confession under duress, there is no other way of looking at it.

'King Deadly

196 posts

266 months

Thursday 2nd December 2004
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Is there a law against registering your car in the name of your pet dog?

medicineman

1,822 posts

266 months

Thursday 2nd December 2004
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Didn't some one register his car under his sons name, the son is 2 years old.

cooperman

4,428 posts

279 months

Thursday 2nd December 2004
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'King Deadly said:
Is there a law against registering your car in the name of your pet dog?


Yes there is.
But there is no law against registering a new limited company for £100, appointing another limited company as company secretary with a P.O. Box number and then ensuring that any and all NIP's are completely ignored. Then register any and all your vehicles to the limited company and bob's your uncle.
There are lots of other countermeasures you can take.
It has to be said that anyone who gets banned solely by cameras under totting-up has not taken the necessary measures soon enough.
For example, all my cars are registered to a non-trading limited company. If we got an NIP we would respond requesting more details, but only after we ignored the first NIP. Eventually the Old Bill would run out of time and/or interest. Then, if necesary, we would place the company into liquidation, without any debts, and refer the CPS to the Registrar of Companies. If it came back to a former director, that directorwould no longer be entitled to hold company records and would have to refer the CPS to the accountants who would be holding all the company records on behalf of the former directors. The accountants would then quite rightly require a payment to investigate the records or would invite a representative of the CPS to attend at their offices to inspect the records, such as they may be. Thus reasonable steps would have been taken to identify the driver.
All this would take more than 6 months and the CPS would be out-of-time or out-of-interest.
Remember, all they want is the money.

Plotloss

67,280 posts

299 months

Thursday 2nd December 2004
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Peter

Good work!

Pigeon

18,535 posts

275 months

Thursday 2nd December 2004
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73% "No" now...

ginge

2,929 posts

272 months

Thursday 2nd December 2004
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Done. Still 73%

hertsbiker

6,443 posts

300 months

Thursday 2nd December 2004
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yesss sirree ! roll up roll up! the great cash machine is only just beginning.

Cynical? moi?

Banning radar detectors. How spiteful.

They'd prefer you to be fined, than to slow down?

Mmmmm. GPS won't be any good with the new rules regarding scamera van placement, which is the only reason they will be permitted.

You'd better not have a "combo" unit, with GPS & laser detection on board, or you'll need to prove the laser bit is deactivated.

There will be masses of new civvy vans, all with pro-laser.

This has really got to a bad state has it not? they want your money, real bad for them to bring in all this new legal stuff.

Funny - lowering limits hasn't worked. So maybe lowering them further is going to work??????

Maybe this is to pay for that little Iraq problem that Bliar poked our noses into?

Gonna end in tears I tell you.

C

8Pack

5,182 posts

269 months

Friday 3rd December 2004
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Just tried to vote! ... we are currently experiencing technichal difficulties....blah....blah....blah! How very convenient! They mustn't like the poll result.

TheExcession

11,669 posts

279 months

Friday 3rd December 2004
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Interestingly overhere in Ireland, use of any form of detector or jammer is already banned.

Mind you out here in the sticks there's no need for one anyway.

best
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SpudGunner

472 posts

288 months

Friday 3rd December 2004
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I really do think we are so soft in this country. We all just let these changes happen without any form of protest by most of us.

I personally am getting to the end of my tether on the whole speeding issue. May need to start carrying a can of expanding foam about just in case

That stuff is an absolute pig to get off. I got some on my hands and it wouldnt come off for about a week! It still remained sticky all that time as well so any dirt stuck! I ended up looking like I had a coal miners hands!

love machine

7,609 posts

264 months

Friday 3rd December 2004
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The future's bright, the future's thermite!