Parking ticket help

[chrisbliss]

Hi all,

Just looking for a bit of help if possible.

Annoyingly I got a parking ticket today in my local multi-storey for not being parked within a marked bay - my fault I know but it's a spot I've always parked in as there is no chance of my car being knocked etc. I've never had a problem with parking in this spot before.

It seems now a private parking company (UKPC) is employed to look after the car park.

They have issued me a ticket and they have mistyped my no. Plate on the ticket - my number plate ends in XFO and on the ticket they have out XFI !!

I've checked there photo evidence online and it clearly shows my number plate but I'm wondering if I ignore the ticket whether they won't cross reference and realise their mistake? Or perhaps the ticket is invalid full stop?

Any help would be great to save me £60!!

Thanks in advance
Chris

[PurpleMoonlight]

Were you obstructing another space?

If not, they have suffered no loss so will struggle to gain a County Court judgement against you.

[chrisbliss]

No I wasn't blocking any one else or anything like that!

The CCJ automatically makes me think is it worth trying to dodge it!

[speedking31]

chrisbliss said:

The CCJ automatically makes me think is it worth trying to dodge it!

You've got that the wrong way round. A CCJ is the risk you take if you refuse to pay even after you have been taken to court and found against. If that's a fear then you should appeal.

[Jezzerh]

The experts live on pepipoo.com. Join and post there before doing anything else, especially parting with any cash!

[swisstoni]

Presumably they have recorded the reg incorrectly on their system too and when they apply for details of the keeper they will draw a blank?

[silverfoxcc]

DO NOT contact the PPC. mistyping the reg is a ploy they use to get you to contact them and saves the money getting your details from the DVLA, As stated above, join pepipoo, and follow their advice to the letter, you will cost the PPC at least £27.00 and win at POPLA

Dis i say DO NOT contact the PPC and join Pepipoo?

Oh an any threat of sending around the debt collectors in case you dont pay is a lot of tosh. You just tell the debt collectors to go away THey have no legal standing to demand money from you
Only court baliffs can do this and if this EVER gets to a court i will eat my laptop

Oh i forgot DO NOT contact the PPC and get onto the peipoo site

[fatboy b]

As said. Check with pepipoo, but more than likely ignore it. You have the first invoice. You'll get a reminder, then an increase with a threat of court action. The final chapter will be court papers that aren't stamped by the court, but "will be by date xx/xx/xx" unless you pay £xxx.

There will be people who follow this post to say that since Oct 2012 the law has changed blah blah blah. But in the end, if they want to take you to court, they need a bullet-proof case. They haven't.

[Who me ?]

But if he does nothing and fails to let UKPC know who the RK is , another RK will get the reminder and if fights the case, UKPC will add a bit more red to their faces as I'd suggest that will be a totally different make . Bit naughty, but I'd ask the legal experts to say if he's actually doing anything wrong. UKPC have made the mistake .Is it up to RK to correct their sloppy work ? They want to charge on what is basically a technicality , so let them get their facts etc right first.
But Peppipoo is the place to ask .

Edited by Who me ? on Saturday 17th May 20:27

[anonymous-user]

I had a parking ticket and joined pepipoo and didn't really get much help, but looked into it myself.

The legislation is 'Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 SCHEDULE 4
Recovery of unpaid parking charges'

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2012/9/schedul...

have a look. The general consensus is the registered keeper has to prove they weren't driving, which if it went to court could be a tricky situation if you lie.

Now whether you believe they will enforce it is up to you,

Now the charge bit states 'in the case of a relevant obligation arising as a result of a trespass or other tort, means a sum in the nature of damages,'

I would suggest you send money to the value of another ticket for the time you were there plus an 5 pound admin fee + 2.5 dvla fee, maybe 15 pounds would be fair, for tort damages.

Also ref honest john http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/faq/private-parking-pe...

'13-6-2011: Relevant Clauses of Schedule 4 of Protection of Freedoms Bill:

Department of Transport’s Guidance on Clause 56 and Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012: Recovery of Unpaid Parking Charges:-

Charges may not be set at higher levels than necessary to recover business losses and the intention should not be to penalise the driver.'

Edited by The Spruce goose on Saturday 17th May 20:33

[swisstoni]

A simpler approach is just pay the ticket and get on with your life. And perhaps don't create you own parking spaces in future. How do you know that you weren't creating a problem? If there was a good reason to put a bay where you parked presumably there would have been one. They aren't going to leave space for nothing.

[chrisbliss]

Thanks for everyone's help minus swisstoni who can please keep his unconstructive post and opinion to themselves, there's always one!!

[Who me ?]

Bit in first post being missed is "They have issued me a ticket and they have mistyped my no. Plate on the ticket - my number plate ends in XFO and on the ticket they have out XFI !"

Look at the threat boards in every PPC car park. It's written in different ways but says"If you ignore the PCN we will ask DVLA for the name and address of the REGISTERED KEEPER". Suggestion - head over to
https://www.taxdisc.direct.gov.uk/EvlPortalApp/app... and enter your own vehicle into a vehicle enquiry. You'll need the VRN and make. Now try again changing the last letter to one in advance or before your last one.
Chriss might like to try this with his and the typo . If DVLA says NON, I'd wait and see if UKPC decide it's a lost cause . However, I tried this with my own reg, ending D ,changing it to a C and E.Worrying enough the C produced an identical car ( but mine was an ex lease car to the same leasee), but it won't be registered to me, and possibly not in the same part of the country. UKPC are being shown up as the biggest scammers in the parking industry more often than not.
Only nasty is if UKPC took a photo with VRN .

[chrisbliss]

I did a reg check on the incorrect no. Plate and there's no such car that exists so they may spot there mistake and cross reference the pics but nobody will incorrectly receive a chaser and fight there own case!

[chrisbliss]

Just to clarify "who me?" They unfortunately did take pics that showed the VRN

[Who me ?]

And the make ?

[swisstoni]

chrisbliss said:

Thanks for everyone's help minus swisstoni who can please keep his unconstructive post and opinion to themselves, there's always one!!

Then I bid you good evening.

[chrisbliss]

It's quite clear what the car is yeh, they've taken several shots from several angles

[shep1001]

chrisbliss said:

Thanks for everyone's help minus swisstoni who can please keep his unconstructive post and opinion to themselves, there's always one!!

Why do you think you should be able to park with impunity just because it was a private contractor who issued the ticket rather than the council? You admit you were in the wrong so you should pay. That said if the contractor is too dopy to issue the ticket correctly then a challenge on the validity of the ticket is fair game.

[SV8Predator]

Do you think we should have a separate area of the forum for people who get parking tickets and their first thought is to post o PH for advice on how to get out of it?

It's every second new thread now.