Car battery question
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Podie

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304 months

Tuesday 20th May 2014
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Decided to replace the battery, as starting is a touch laboured and having tested it with a multimeter, it looks like it's probably the original and therefore 5 years old. (I also can't find anything in the paperwork to suggest it has been changed).

My default behaviour is to shove the largest battery in I can find (in terms of CCA) and this has served me well over the last two decades of car ownership.

However... do I really need to be doing this?

As an overview, I appear to have 3 options:

  • Standard - 500CCA, 56AH
  • Better - 750CCA, 74AH (+£12 over standard)
  • Overkill? - 760CCA, 80AH (+£50 over standard)
£12 more seems a no brainer for quite a bit more, but is it worth £50 for a tiny bit extra?

Thoughts?

TIA smile

Toaster Pilot

14,861 posts

187 months

Tuesday 20th May 2014
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What rating is the original? Replace it with that.

Don't see why you'd want/need anything else.

aw51 121565

4,773 posts

262 months

Tuesday 20th May 2014
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There are arguments for fitting a 'bigger' (higher CCA) battery in yes - but make sure it physically has the same width and height and isn't too long for the battery tray or the space it fits in.

And make sure the posts are of the same type as on the original battery, and are orientated the same way.

wink

Podie

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Tuesday 20th May 2014
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Toaster Pilot said:
What rating is the original? Replace it with that.

Don't see why you'd want/need anything else.
Not with the car, so need to double check. The Halfords online thing suggests what I've marked as "standard" in the OP.

I've also noted that the "standard" has a 3 year warranty, whereas the others are 5 year. The extra £12 for 2 years more warranty seems worthwhile to me (I am likely to keep the car for 5 years).

Podie

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aw51 121565 said:
There are arguments for fitting a 'bigger' (higher CCA) battery in yes - but make sure it physically has the same width and height and isn't too long for the battery tray or the space it fits in.

And make sure the posts are of the same type as on the original battery, and are orientated the same way.

wink
All batteries confirmed as fitting (others on the owners club have fitted the "upgraded" and "overkill" options.

Posts are identical in layout too.

steveo3002

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203 months

Tuesday 20th May 2014
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all the same brand for those prices? worth getting a decent make one imo

Podie

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steveo3002 said:
all the same brand for those prices? worth getting a decent make one imo
Standard
Halfords own
500CCA, 56AH
3yr warranty

Better
Varta or Bosch
750CCA, 74AH
5yr warranty
(+£12 over standard)

Overkill?
Yuasa
760CCA, 80AH
5yr warranty
(+£50 over standard)

g3org3y

22,456 posts

220 months

Tuesday 20th May 2014
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Podie said:
steveo3002 said:
all the same brand for those prices? worth getting a decent make one imo
Standard
Halfords own
500CCA, 56AH
3yr warranty

Better
Varta or Bosch
750CCA, 74AH
5yr warranty
(+£12 over standard)

Overkill?
Yuasa
760CCA, 80AH
5yr warranty
(+£50 over standard)
If the manufacturer spec is as per 'standard' the 'better' option is more than enough an upgrade.

Bosch imo is the way to go.

steveo3002

11,201 posts

203 months

Tuesday 20th May 2014
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id get the varta , seem to last ages

r11co

6,244 posts

259 months

Tuesday 20th May 2014
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What car is the battery for?

Unless the charging system can be reprogrammed to match the larger capacity batteries, or has intelligent battery monitoring, then they are a total waste of cash as you won't see the benefit. In fact it may even be detrimental to the lifespan of the battery.

I know BMWs can be adapted through the diagnostics to work with a range of batteries but I don't know what kind of support other manufacturers have for this.

Bluebarge

4,519 posts

207 months

Tuesday 20th May 2014
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I always find Halfords expensive for batteries.

Try the battery guys or one of the other online suppliers

Podie

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Bluebarge said:
I always find Halfords expensive for batteries.
Agreed - it was only to get an idea of what the standard size / capacity was.

r11co said:
What car is the battery for?
It's for the Focus ST (2.5 engine).

Ford have offered to sell me all 3 options (at significant price hikes), so I assume there is no issue.

r11co

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Tuesday 20th May 2014
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Podie said:
It's for the Focus ST (2.5 engine).

Ford have offered to sell me all 3 options (at significant price hikes), so I assume there is no issue.
...and possibly no benefit either (except to them, in profit).

I'm not familiar with the charging system on the Focus, so I'd investigate if it is adaptive or not. If it isn't then there's no benefit to the bigger numbers.

Personally I'd probably go for the middle option because it'll be a better quality battery, but shop around.

Podie

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r11co said:
Podie said:
It's for the Focus ST (2.5 engine).

Ford have offered to sell me all 3 options (at significant price hikes), so I assume there is no issue.
...and possibly no benefit either (except to them, in profit).

I'm not familiar with the charging system on the Focus, so I'd investigate if it is adaptive or not. If it isn't then there's no benefit to the bigger numbers.

Personally I'd probably go for the middle option because it'll be a better quality battery, but shop around.
I'll double check on the charging system thing, but the middle option seems the most sensible.

aw51 121565

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262 months

Tuesday 20th May 2014
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Podie said:
aw51 121565 said:
There are arguments for fitting a 'bigger' (higher CCA) battery in yes - but make sure it physically has the same width and height and isn't too long for the battery tray or the space it fits in.

And make sure the posts are of the same type as on the original battery, and are orientated the same way.

wink
All batteries confirmed as fitting (others on the owners club have fitted the "upgraded" and "overkill" options.

Posts are identical in layout too.
thumbup , I only posted the bit about size & fit as not everyone researches thoroughly (or at all frown ) smile .

TooLateForAName

4,924 posts

213 months

Tuesday 20th May 2014
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I'd go with Bosch Silver (thats what I usually do anyway)

try ecp, costco or local motor factor (I use andrew page - depends who is around you)