What happens when you hit a bird at 185 Knots?
What happens when you hit a bird at 185 Knots?
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onyx39

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179 months

Wednesday 21st May 2014
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According to an email I got this morning, this.
It was apparently a goose at 11,000 ft, If true, I did not realise they flew that high!

Not sure if a re-post.




Magic919

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Eric Mc

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294 months

Wednesday 21st May 2014
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This is genuine bird strike damage -


mybrainhurts

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284 months

Wednesday 21st May 2014
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onyx39 said:
It was apparently a goose at 11,000 ft, If true, I did not realise they flew that high!
11,000 feet? That one probably achieved orbit...smile

Bet he needed an aspirin.

onyx39

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179 months

Wednesday 21st May 2014
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I was not totally convinced by the email, but thought I would share anyway. Hence the wording!

smile

Simpo Two

92,672 posts

294 months

Wednesday 21st May 2014
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A goose with an angle grinder perhaps.

SimonD

486 posts

310 months

Wednesday 21st May 2014
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Simpo Two said:
A goose with an angle grinder perhaps.
....and a very long extension lead.

Siko

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271 months

Wednesday 21st May 2014
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Hmmmmm. Hit a few over the years in the military, between 120-150kts and never knowingly damaged my helicopter. Hmmmm.

frodo_monkey

672 posts

225 months

Wednesday 21st May 2014
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They can do a sh*tload of damage to fast-jets when you tt one at 420kts, trust me...

eccles

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251 months

Wednesday 21st May 2014
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frodo_monkey said:
They can do a sh*tload of damage to fast-jets when you tt one at 420kts, trust me...
Tonkas are a lot stronger than Hawks!


I've had to reskin the top of a C-130 cockpit after an Albatross strike!

Siko

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271 months

Wednesday 21st May 2014
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frodo_monkey said:
They can do a sh*tload of damage to fast-jets when you tt one at 420kts, trust me...
Indeed it can, but his email said 185 knots and showed a trail of destruction more like the results of your tonka hitting one. Plus our blades do around 400 odd knots too biggrin

PaulG40

2,381 posts

254 months

Wednesday 21st May 2014
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A while back now but I remember a 13sqn tonka birdstrike that hit and entered the windscreen, pilot got it in the face, backseat got hit too but had his mask on etc. Showed pictures of the bruising on the faces, ouch! Bird guts everywhere!

Last canopy strike I was involved in was years back but pretty damn messy!

Best way of detecting a bird strike down an engine... smells like chicken! biggrin (ignoring the blood and feather trails...

Tango13

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205 months

Wednesday 21st May 2014
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There was an urban myth from De Havilland in Hatfield that went along the lines of an air powered cannon was used to simulate birdstrikes by firing chickens at parts of the airframe but one day somebody forgot to defrost the chicken laugh

Simpo Two

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294 months

Wednesday 21st May 2014
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PaulG40 said:
A while back now but I remember a 13sqn tonka birdstrike that hit and entered the windscreen, pilot got it in the face, backseat got hit too but had his mask on etc. Showed pictures of the bruising on the faces, ouch! Bird guts everywhere!
Are canopies not bulletproof any more?

Tango13 said:
There was an urban myth from De Havilland in Hatfield that went along the lines of an air powered cannon was used to simulate birdstrikes by firing chickens at parts of the airframe but one day somebody forgot to defrost the chicken laugh
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_gun

The development runs thus:

'Rolls Royce built a type of gun to fire a dead chicken at the windscreens of Jet airliners and military aircraft to test that they could withstand a bird strike at full velocity.

A team of Americans working on a new high speed train heard about it and got in touch with Rolls Royce who arranged for a gun to be sent over to test the trains widscreen.

The americans were horrified when they tested the screen for the first time when the chicken smashed through the screen, tore through the drivers high backed seat and embedded itself in the back of the cabin. The americans urgently sent their Design drawings , calculations, specifications and test data over to Rolls Royce begging for assistance in finding out where they went wrong.

Rolls Royce sent back a one line memo....

"Defrost the Chicken".'

ecsrobin

18,643 posts

194 months

Wednesday 21st May 2014
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I can confirm that the smell of a seagull is awful. Had a bird strike through the window of an aircraft I was on doing about 130kts blood and guts everywhere my shoes were covered in it. And the head ended up below my seat. The smell of fish and guts was not pleasant and everything just smelt of it for weeks.

magpie215

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218 months

Thursday 22nd May 2014
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Gannet strike.....and

same year different Gannet









Edited by magpie215 on Thursday 22 May 00:27

Ray Luxury-Yacht

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245 months

Thursday 22nd May 2014
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For what it's worth - I hit a fairly small, female Pheasant once on a motorbike, when I was doing a similar speed...

Fortunately for me, when it flew out from the hedge to my left, it flew out low enough to hit the front of the bike, rather than my head or chest. If it had hit me, then I would have probably been thrown from the bike...

Anyway, I hit it with the front headlamp of the bike.

It was a HUGE impact - enough for me to feel the bike slow by at least 10mph, and create a massive bang plus a shower of broken glass and plastic that shot past my head yikes

When I stopped, the front of the bike was obliterated.

The headlamp and fairing plastics around it were gone. The bird had come so far back, it had also detached the instrument unit from it's mountings - and the instrument panel was also in many bits.

Upon further investigation, even the metal support brackets for the headlamp fairing and instruments was bent too.

And the remainder of the bird's carcass was embedded deep into the bracketry.


I couldn't believe the amount of damage from such a small bird!!!


rs4al

954 posts

194 months

Thursday 22nd May 2014
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Deer strike !

Shaw Tarse

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232 months

Thursday 22nd May 2014
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rs4al said:


Deer strike !
Were the repairs expensive?
wink

RobGT81

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215 months

Thursday 22nd May 2014
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PaulG40 said:
Best way of detecting a bird strike down an engine... smells like chicken! biggrin (ignoring the blood and feather trails...
Not sure about chicken! It certainly smells of something, you never ever forget the smell of it. Can feel it at the back of nose just thinking about it, bleurgh.

They make a mess of Harrier windscreens.