Speeding Advice!
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320td

Original Poster:

53 posts

263 months

Friday 3rd December 2004
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Think I've been caught by one of those bloody Talivans.

I was overtaking a HGV on the Bristol Ring Road (dual carriageway) - maximum speed achieved thought to be 65-70mph and the limit was 50mph.

I sped up to get past the HGV safely and then took my foot of the gas and coasted down to the 50mph limit from 65-70mph at which point a saw the Talivan...he would have had a good view of the whole manouevre...

What can I expect in terms of a fine/points and does anyone know of a website where up-to-date information on how points and fines are awarded with regard to speeding speeding?

My licence is currently clean, conditions were excellent (bright, sunny,clear and dry despite the cold and there was very little traffic).

Thanks in advance

Andy

Davel

8,982 posts

287 months

Friday 3rd December 2004
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I was caught at 75 in a 60, doing the same overtake.

Suspect 3 points and £60, as a guide but sure someone here will soon confirm it for you.

Welcome to the criminal underworld!

Dwight VanDriver

6,583 posts

273 months

Friday 3rd December 2004
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If you were doing under 76 in the 50 and if you were checked then expect, if you are the Reg Keeper of the vehicle, in the next 15 days papers in the post.

No papers then consider yourself lucky.

If they are operating to ACPO Guidlines then there will be a Conditional offer of 60 notes and 3 points.
Over 76 then expect an appearance before the Magistrates for a greater fine and possible short ban.

DVD

KITT

5,345 posts

270 months

Friday 3rd December 2004
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Was caught a couple of years ago by one of those Avon and Somerset Talivans in a 50. I too was overtaking and was clocked at 73mph. £60 and 3 points Some say I was lucky as it was 23 over the limit but I don't consider getting caught lucky!

Edit to say I got the letter 4 days after the event which was pretty efficient of them. Bastards.

>> Edited by KITT on Friday 3rd December 16:32

320td

Original Poster:

53 posts

263 months

Friday 3rd December 2004
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Thanks for the replies everyone.

One thing I forgot to ask is how long do I have to wait before I get something through the door?

As an aside - quite what catching me doing what I was doing will achieve I do not know? One thing is for sure, who ever benefits from the fine will be 60 notes better off and the roads will be no safer for it...

...I don't mean to seem like I'm winging but I would do the same manouevre again and again - dangerous it was not. Maybe I should have crawled past the HGV with a speed differential of 0.1mph and risked being forced into the central reservation by a wandering 40 tonner...major RTA, closed road, possible death, massive traffic delays, the list goes on. And once (if) safely past stamped on mt brakes to shed the 0.1mph I was exceeding the limit by...

I had no intention of speeding in this instance, merely overtaking safely - hence the fact that I began to slow down afterwards (well before I saw our friendly Talivan by the way...)

But then I was speeding after all...

ho hum - another criminal joining the ranks...

Davel

8,982 posts

287 months

Friday 3rd December 2004
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I suspect that many of us get caught simply overtaking and not looking to speed, but sadly that has no bearing on the outcome.

You get the chance to accept the points and fine or risk going to court, to have your say, and risk a much stiffer penalty - so on balance most of us take the lesser risk.

Guilty unless you can prove the opposite and going to Court believing that you're right may well backfire on you anyway.

Happy Christmas - mine was 18 December and NIP arrived Christmas Eve, so I stuck it with the other cards!

320td

Original Poster:

53 posts

263 months

Friday 3rd December 2004
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I'm not going to contest anything (nothing to contest really - speed limit was 50mph and I was doing 65-70mph). Just letting of some steam.

I'll look forward to paying my 60 notes and becoming a safer driver as a result of my 3 points.

Andy

BliarOut

72,863 posts

268 months

Friday 3rd December 2004
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CHECK THE ENVELOPE and keep it if anything arrives... Second class, and you're home free

320td

Original Poster:

53 posts

263 months

Friday 3rd December 2004
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That'll need some explaining - I'm not following?

Andy

BliarOut

72,863 posts

268 months

Friday 3rd December 2004
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Wouldn't be validly served... Just getting a friend off for that now. If anything comes, you could do far worse than take a trip over to www.pepipoo.com

mcflurry

9,189 posts

282 months

Friday 3rd December 2004
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Avon and Somerset use 1st class stamps :-(

parrot of doom

23,075 posts

263 months

Friday 3rd December 2004
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Check that the van was manned by police, if it was manned by civilians they can't touch you.

MacGD016

4 posts

265 months

Sunday 5th December 2004
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parrot of doom said:
Check that the van was manned by police, if it was manned by civilians they can't touch you.

I'd like to think that thats the case but I dont think it is!

parrot of doom

23,075 posts

263 months

Sunday 5th December 2004
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Oh it is, believe me. If its a civilian, then go not guilty, and they'll quietly forget about it. You can't be done for speeding by a civilian, even if he/she has the world's best laser gun.

IOLAIRE

1,293 posts

267 months

Sunday 5th December 2004
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320td said:
I'm not going to contest anything (nothing to contest really - speed limit was 50mph and I was doing 65-70mph). Just letting of some steam.

I'll look forward to paying my 60 notes and becoming a safer driver as a result of my 3 points.

Andy


Andy, why do you think this will make you a safer driver?
What is it you think will change; before you answer bear in mind you have simply given them sixty quid and they have placed some ink marks on your driving licence, so what is it in this process that will make you safer driver?

TripleS

4,294 posts

271 months

Sunday 5th December 2004
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IOLAIRE said:

320td said:
I'm not going to contest anything (nothing to contest really - speed limit was 50mph and I was doing 65-70mph). Just letting of some steam.

I'll look forward to paying my 60 notes and becoming a safer driver as a result of my 3 points.

Andy



Andy, why do you think this will make you a safer driver?
What is it you think will change; before you answer bear in mind you have simply given them sixty quid and they have placed some ink marks on your driving licence, so what is it in this process that will make you safer driver?


I thought Andy was joking about the 'safer driver' bit.
Have I got it wrong again?

Best wishes all,
Dave.

320td

Original Poster:

53 posts

263 months

Monday 6th December 2004
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It was sarcasm

My whole point is that nothing will change - as we all know (except I will be 60 notes worse off and 3 points richer...)

Andy