If I run my E46 M3 on 95ron will it explode/Blow up?
If I run my E46 M3 on 95ron will it explode/Blow up?
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HannsG

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3,135 posts

163 months

Monday 26th May 2014
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This is a serious question because I hear it will become an uncontrollable nuclear explosion...

I jest. So I use Vpower, but surely in other parts of the world where anything above 95ron is difficult to obtain these cars run fine?

So you lose a few horses and your knock sensor has to adjust, I might try it out as an experiment.

127.9 (unleaded) versus 139.9 (Vpower) - its an experiment worth trying maybe. Affordability does not come into it otherwise I would not be running the M as a daily hack. However, I can't believe paying over 10p extra a litre is worth it.

Or is it?

blank

3,761 posts

217 months

Monday 26th May 2014
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It won't blow up.

You'll probably see a decrease in economy though, which doesn't make it as much of a cost saving.

HaloGen8

1,413 posts

158 months

Monday 26th May 2014
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Tesco 99ron - £1.32.9

And cheaper still if you shop there too with their current scheme.

Win - Win

HannsG

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Monday 26th May 2014
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HaloGen8 said:
Tesco 99ron - 1.32.9

And cheaper still if you shop there too with their current scheme.

Win - Win
Aye. But we don't have tesco near us mate. stloads of Shell though, who all differ on price a lot too

HannsG

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163 months

Monday 26th May 2014
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Just checked inside fuel filler cap - 95-98ron. So car will definitely not blow up!

TheInternet

5,230 posts

192 months

Monday 26th May 2014
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HaloGen8 said:
Tesco 99ron - 1.32.9

And cheaper still if you shop there too with their current scheme.

Win - Win
Shopping at Tesco is not a win.

Motorrad

6,811 posts

216 months

Monday 26th May 2014
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TheInternet said:
Shopping at Tesco is not a win.
It is as long as you get the maid/au pair/the wife/girlfriend to do it.

HannsG

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163 months

Monday 26th May 2014
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Fuel cap states 95-98. Will do a test run...

Baz Tench

5,648 posts

219 months

Monday 26th May 2014
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I've run mine on lower octane stuff occasionally, but only a tenner's worth here and there if there's no 99 about for whatever reason. It's always been fine tbh, but I do like to brim it with Tesco Momentum (shock horror!) whenever I can.

Edited by Baz Tench on Monday 26th May 19:11

rich85uk

4,323 posts

208 months

Monday 26th May 2014
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if its the same as the 330's of that generation then it will have knock sensors and you will just get a slight decrease in engine performance

mwstewart

8,551 posts

217 months

Monday 26th May 2014
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Have you read the handbook? 95RON is for use in an emergency only and full throttle should be avoided in the event you do use it. The S54 is a high performance, high compression engine that runs more ignition advance than the average car, hence detonation is never far away on 95. Yes it has knock adaption, but knock must occur for that to take place.

mattley

3,035 posts

251 months

Monday 26th May 2014
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Why on earth would you want to do this?

WTF sort of an experiment start with can I make my really nice car a little bit worse without completely destroying it?

Really, Why?

SMcP114

2,916 posts

221 months

Monday 26th May 2014
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Honestly can't see why anyone would want to do that for the sake of a few quid.

InductionRoar

2,355 posts

161 months

Monday 26th May 2014
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I honestly don't see why you would want to... confused

The 10p per litre saving will be negated by the better economy plus the engine will be happier. Win, win..?

martin mrt

3,883 posts

230 months

Monday 26th May 2014
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I ran my first E46 M3 on 95 Ron when I was using it to run back/forth to work, never caused any issues to that, my current E46 has been ran on 95 Ron and has yet to explode.

Never noticed any performance differences if I'm honest, but saying that sitting in rush hour traffic 95% of the time isn't a good measure of performance variation between fuel types.

Dare say it will perform SLIGHTLY better on 98/99 Ron however the use my M3 gets currently doesn't warrant the extra cost, mpg differences are unnoticeable

HannsG

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Monday 26th May 2014
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martin mrt said:
I ran my first E46 M3 on 95 Ron when I was using it to run back/forth to work, never caused any issues to that, my current E46 has been ran on 95 Ron and has yet to explode.

Never noticed any performance differences if I'm honest, but saying that sitting in rush hour traffic 95% of the time isn't a good measure of performance variation between fuel types.

Dare say it will perform SLIGHTLY better on 98/99 Ron however the use my M3 gets currently doesn't warrant the extra cost, mpg differences are unnoticeable
Yup, my car sees minimal use. Maybe 6miles each day and 20 miles each weekend?

Whats the point in spending extra to see it pissed up the wall...

HannsG

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163 months

Monday 26th May 2014
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mwstewart said:
Have you read the handbook? 95RON is for use in an emergency only and full throttle should be avoided in the event you do use it. The S54 is a high performance, high compression engine that runs more ignition advance than the average car, hence detonation is never far away on 95. Yes it has knock adaption, but knock must occur for that to take place.
Yes I have read the handbook. I am for the life of me am unable to find the extract you refer too.

The handbook states minimum 95ron

InductionRoar

2,355 posts

161 months

Monday 26th May 2014
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HannsG said:
Yup, my car sees minimal use. Maybe 6miles each day and 20 miles each weekend?

Whats the point in spending extra to see it pissed up the wall...
Would you put cheaper engine oil in on this basis?

V-power is not just a higher octane version of the 95RON. It has cleaning agents which would be more important on shorter journeys.

nottyash

4,671 posts

224 months

Monday 26th May 2014
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I have had 2 and ran them both on 95 Ron when super wasn't available.
I couldn't even notice a difference. The handbook does say Min 95.

mwstewart

8,551 posts

217 months

Monday 26th May 2014
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