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70proof

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6,158 posts

186 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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say you have three cars, on three different policies, wife a policyholder on one, not multicar, different insurers infact, just the way it worked out with cheapest quotes etc....

on two policies you have not made a claim in the last 6 years! on one you have, both drivers x1 each.

when you change car on the claimless policy, and get a re-quote, for claim history is it zero as it pertains to this policy, providing the use is going to be like for like for the new car...

Edited by 70proof on Tuesday 27th May 22:09

littleredrooster

6,415 posts

227 months

Wednesday 28th May 2014
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The question on the proposal form asks 'have YOU made ANY claims in the past five years?'

And your answer will have to be...and your partners answer will also be...?

70proof

Original Poster:

6,158 posts

186 months

Wednesday 28th May 2014
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littleredrooster said:
The question on the proposal form asks 'have YOU made ANY claims in the past five years?'

And your answer will have to be...and your partners answer will also be...?
i get that, but on this policy you have not and your no claims discount reflects this...

calibrax

4,788 posts

242 months

Wednesday 28th May 2014
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70proof said:
say you have three cars, on three different policies, wife a policyholder on one, not multicar, different insurers infact, just the way it worked out with cheapest quotes etc....

on two policies you have not made a claim in the last 6 years! on one you have, both drivers x1 each.

when you change car on the claimless policy, and get a re-quote, for claim history is it zero as it pertains to this policy, providing the use is going to be like for like for the new car...
Seriously? you think that because one particular policy has not been claimed on you retain your NCB on that policy?

NCB applies to the policyholder. You still need to inform the insurer if you have had any claims (as it's a change in circumstances).

Snowboy

8,028 posts

182 months

Wednesday 28th May 2014
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AFAIK, you keep the NCB on that policy, but you still need to inform them about the claim on the other policy.

Your personal claim history and the policy claim history are two separate things.

Aretnap

1,983 posts

182 months

Wednesday 28th May 2014
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70proof said:
i get that, but on this policy you have not and your no claims discount reflects this...
Yes, which is why you get to keep the NCD on that policy. You still have to tell them about all the accidents that you've had and claims that you've made though, assuming that's what the question asks (it nearly always does).

Aretnap

1,983 posts

182 months

Wednesday 28th May 2014
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calibrax said:
Seriously? you think that because one particular policy has not been claimed on you retain your NCB on that policy?
Yes, that's exactly how NCB works.

You still have to declare claims on all your policies though, whether or not they affected the NCB on that particular policy.

littleredrooster

6,415 posts

227 months

Wednesday 28th May 2014
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70proof said:
littleredrooster said:
The question on the proposal form asks 'have YOU made ANY claims in the past five years?'

And your answer will have to be...and your partners answer will also be...?
i get that, but on this policy you have not and your no claims discount reflects this...
But it doesn't say 'have you made any claims ON THIS POLICY' does it? It asks if you have made ANY claims at all. Surely you understand this? An insurer will want to know about any and all accidents and claims made by any drivers holding or named on the policy.

TwigtheWonderkid

49,247 posts

181 months

Wednesday 28th May 2014
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calibrax said:
Seriously? you think that because one particular policy has not been claimed on you retain your NCB on that policy?

NCB applies to the policyholder.
100% wrong. But that aside, useful input.

jimbop1

2,441 posts

235 months

Wednesday 28th May 2014
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littleredrooster said:
The question on the proposal form asks 'have YOU made ANY claims in the past five years?'

And your answer will have to be...and your partners answer will also be...?
....?

70proof

Original Poster:

6,158 posts

186 months

Wednesday 28th May 2014
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littleredrooster said:
70proof said:
littleredrooster said:
The question on the proposal form asks 'have YOU made ANY claims in the past five years?'

And your answer will have to be...and your partners answer will also be...?
i get that, but on this policy you have not and your no claims discount reflects this...
But it doesn't say 'have you made any claims ON THIS POLICY' does it? It asks if you have made ANY claims at all. Surely you understand this? An insurer will want to know about any and all accidents and claims made by any drivers holding or named on the policy.
my point is based on the fact that the claims were made on a daily driver, leaving home amongst all the other workers and mums on the road doing school runs etc..... therefore car use will be totally different to the car on which i want a quote, which will be a low mileage weekend only social car..... driving habits change, risk exposure changes, esp the at fault claim vs my wife was vandalism overnight with the daily stter parked on the road....

Edited by 70proof on Wednesday 28th May 20:16

70proof

Original Poster:

6,158 posts

186 months

Wednesday 28th May 2014
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jimbop1 said:
....?
one policy is via work on a lease car, and they know everything. the other two policies are held by Aviva, not multicar, and obviously they know everything...... so I've not hidden anything from anyone....

what I want to do is shop around for a comparison price on one of the cars, with which I have collected 12years NCD with no claims on that policy ever! so, my question pertains to filling in the quote generator

littleredrooster

6,415 posts

227 months

Wednesday 28th May 2014
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It matters not when, where, how or against whom you claimed. You have claimed against a policy within the last five years. Therefore you have to declare this on all applications, it doesn't matter which car or which policy it is.

I struggle to grasp why you can't understand the simple question posed on the proposal form. The insurer will typically ask "Have you had any accidents, claims or convictions in the past five years?" In the American parlance, there's no 'wiggle-room' in that question; you either have or have not!

LoonR1

26,988 posts

208 months

Wednesday 28th May 2014
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How complicated are you all making this?

If you make a claim on any motor policy at all, then you have to declare it at renewal on all motor policies that you have.

NCD will only be affected on the policy on which the claim was made (assuming it isn't protected)

As an example. I have 4 motorbikes, two cars and a van. If I crash the van, I have to declare the claim when renewing the bikes and car, but the NCD on these policies will be as before plus a further year.

littleredrooster

6,415 posts

227 months

Saturday 31st May 2014
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LoonR1 said:
How complicated are you all making this?
Oi! Don't include me in that statement! I'm merely pointing out the bloody obvious (or so I thought).

Pit Pony

11,494 posts

152 months

Saturday 31st May 2014
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Snowboy said:
AFAIK, you keep the NCB on that policy, but you still need to inform them about the claim on the other policy.

Your personal claim history and the policy claim history are two separate things.
Indeed, my wife is 24 years claim and conviction free, with full protected NCB on one car, and 2 years NCB on the other,

I however am 4 years claim free, and 3 years conviction free, with full protected NCB on one car.

I'm getting quote for my son, (a 21st birthday surprise where his granddad gives up driving and gives him a low mileage astra), with me and the misses as named drivers, and his own lack of NCB (passed test in 2010, has had insurance for total of about 20 months as a named driver, on one or other of our cars).

I just have to answer the question "has this driver made a claim in the last X years"

Jon1967x

8,205 posts

155 months

Saturday 31st May 2014
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Seems another 'ask a question, don't hear the answer you want, so argue....'

If the OPs insurance thing was true for the logic given, you might as well not declare speeding points if incurred driving a different car because 'that car was my hooning around weekend car but I drive this one sensibly in the week'. Or if you have an accident and wrote off the car then you don't need to declare it because you're insuring a different car. The logic is pretty easy to comprehend, as is the question on the insurance form