eBay non payment
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tbc

Original Poster:

3,017 posts

206 months

Thursday 29th May 2014
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Why do ebay not take non payment of items seriously.

Sold about £300 worth in the last week and not one of the buyers has bothered to pay despite repeated requests.

Think eBay should have a once a warning, twice a ban rule.

I'm a small time selling but can't imagine the hassle of anyone going full time on eBay

ging84

9,548 posts

177 months

Thursday 29th May 2014
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you are not meant to send them the goods until they have paid, if you have done then that is your fault

if you are complaining about people not paying before they have the goods, so not completing the sale, do you really expect ebay to chase down everyone who changes their mind or discoverers they can't afford to pay ?

shep1001

4,620 posts

220 months

Thursday 29th May 2014
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Its an arse but non paying bidders do get 'strikes' for not paying and you can set this as an exclusion rule for who can bid on your items. You can also set up 'immediate payment required' so an item remains listed for sale until the buyer pays for the item(s)

RCBRG

603 posts

172 months

Thursday 29th May 2014
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happened to me once. i've since bought 3 items from that buyer and not paid for them. petty, but makes me smile smile

tbc

Original Poster:

3,017 posts

206 months

Thursday 29th May 2014
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ging84 said:
you are not meant to send them the goods until they have paid, if you have done then that is your fault

if you are complaining about people not paying before they have the goods, so not completing the sale, do you really expect ebay to chase down everyone who changes their mind or discoverers they can't afford to pay ?
I wouldn't even dream of sending them before i have the money.

anonymous-user

85 months

Thursday 29th May 2014
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Just one of many things eBay don't really care about unfortunately frown

As others have said report them as non-paying bidders and set up your auction filters so anyone with non-paying bidder strikes against them can't bid on your auctions. I've got mine set up that way and very rarely have issues because most of the deadbeats can't bid on my auction anyway.

JustinP1

13,364 posts

261 months

Thursday 29th May 2014
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A couple of weeks I had a clear out - golf clubs, shoes, cricket bats, pads, paper cutter, etc...

22 items. 10 day auctions ended 8pm Sunday. £800 and every item paid for without fail by 10am Monday morning.

I have to say that if anything, the speed of payment has increased over the years.

70% pay in minutes of the auction end. The remainder get an invoice as a jog an hour later. The final stragglers get another invoice the next morning, first thing.

northwest monkey

6,370 posts

220 months

Thursday 29th May 2014
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Ebay do kick people for repeated non-paying. The trouble is, most people when faced with a non-payer leave a false positive - "OMG THIS BUYER BROUGHT OF ME BUT DID NOT PAY AVOID AVOID AVOID" - sort of thing which achieves absolutely nothing as 99% of sellers don't ever look at a buyers feedback.

Open a non-paying bidder, get your fees back, offer it to the next highest bidder and move on.

Add the bidder to your blocked buyers list and tighten up your selling preferences.

andymc

7,626 posts

238 months

Thursday 29th May 2014
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depends what you sell, different categories attract more wkers

northwest monkey

6,370 posts

220 months

Friday 30th May 2014
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andymc said:
depends what you sell, different categories attract more wkers
I'd agree with that. I sell clothing so we get quite a few returns - normally when people are a bit "optimistic" about what size they are or when they are just generally stupid ("I know it says the skirt is grey in your title and in the words, but it looked a bit green on my mobile so I thought you'd made a mistake").

There are a certain group of people within our society that used to be really unlucky with their post going missing, however since we've started adding Recorded stickers to their packages they seem to be much luckier. The rate of returns from this particular group of people is 6 times higher than average though....

I'd never sell anything electrical (particularly mobile phones) on Ebay though - that does seem to attract more than its fair share of idiots. We can sell a dress for £500 and have no problems, but a mate sells his phone for £150 and gets nothing but trouble!

Durzel

13,019 posts

199 months

Friday 30th May 2014
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eBay is stacked in the buyers favour.

It is so well established now that sellers know they have little option but to list on there because that's where the buyers are. It is in eBay's best interests to keep buyers totally sweet as they know the sellers will follow, rather than the other way around.

I'd really like to see a competitor enter the market but they'd have to burn £millions just to get anywhere, let alone meaningfully compete.

supertouring

2,228 posts

264 months

Friday 30th May 2014
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northwest monkey said:
I'd agree with that. I sell clothing so we get quite a few returns - normally when people are a bit "optimistic" about what size they are or when they are just generally stupid ("I know it says the skirt is grey in your title and in the words, but it looked a bit green on my mobile so I thought you'd made a mistake").

There are a certain group of people within our society that used to be really unlucky with their post going missing, however since we've started adding Recorded stickers to their packages they seem to be much luckier. The rate of returns from this particular group of people is 6 times higher than average though....

I'd never sell anything electrical (particularly mobile phones) on Ebay though - that does seem to attract more than its fair share of idiots. We can sell a dress for £500 and have no problems, but a mate sells his phone for £150 and gets nothing but trouble!
Totally agree with all of this, I have sold 000's of items with few problems but would never try and sell a mobile phone on there.

I like the idea of "tracking" stickers, have heard it works well. Privately I would not send without some form of tracking, unless I was happy to lose the money from the sale. Tracking is for my benefit, not the buyers, so would be happy to cover the cost of that to ensure an easy life.

northwest monkey

6,370 posts

220 months

Friday 30th May 2014
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Durzel said:
eBay is stacked in the buyers favour.
You know what, I'd honestly say Amazon is worse. I had 5 feedback removed on Ebay last month because they were stupid, but you'd have no chance with Amazon. We've had negative feedback left for us on Amazon for a product we don't even sell (it referred to it in the feedback) yet Amazon wouldn't refer it as "it is the buyers opinion". I asked them if I bought a CD and left negative feedback saying "it was a rubbish book" would they remove that, and apparently no they wouldn'tlaugh

Durzel

13,019 posts

199 months

Friday 30th May 2014
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northwest monkey said:
You know what, I'd honestly say Amazon is worse. I had 5 feedback removed on Ebay last month because they were stupid, but you'd have no chance with Amazon. We've had negative feedback left for us on Amazon for a product we don't even sell (it referred to it in the feedback) yet Amazon wouldn't refer it as "it is the buyers opinion". I asked them if I bought a CD and left negative feedback saying "it was a rubbish book" would they remove that, and apparently no they wouldn'tlaugh
Wow, that's staggering.

Again though Amazon know you have little option but to suffer their policies and jump through their hoops to get exposure to its market. Sellers have very little power imo.

Expatloon

216 posts

188 months

Saturday 31st May 2014
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northwest monkey said:
We can sell a dress for £500 and have no problems
Who the hell spends £500 on a dress on a site like eBay eek