TPMS reset tools
Discussion
Has anybody purchased a TPMS reset tool, if so which one.
I have a couple of sets of wheels and having to get them reset when changing wheels is annoying.
I guess it depends on your view and whether or not the wheels are changed often.
Since one set of sensors are Beru and the others I am not sure.
I think all sets are able to be reset with the right hand held connected electronic tool.
Any ideas chaps....
I have a couple of sets of wheels and having to get them reset when changing wheels is annoying.
I guess it depends on your view and whether or not the wheels are changed often.
Since one set of sensors are Beru and the others I am not sure.
I think all sets are able to be reset with the right hand held connected electronic tool.
Any ideas chaps....
Thanks.. I know the newer Beru are self learning but the others are not, hence the question...it maybe the smarttire versions are the issue
Also why on earth AM cannot make this as part of the setup screen as other manufacters do..
Also why on earth AM cannot make this as part of the setup screen as other manufacters do..
Edited by pilgrim7777 on Sunday 1st June 11:19
Edited by pilgrim7777 on Sunday 1st June 11:21
If the car is newer beru brain and sensor spec, the system will self learn the pressure signal from each corner / sensor serial number. So a tool to program set-up is not needed for this level system.
the older lever smartire sensor is not compatible with beru system or visa versa, and the smartire system needs a diagnostic tool to manually program sensor serial number to brain.
there might be a third party device which can program smartire brain without the need of factory diagnostic tool, but any good indi or dealer that has factory diagnostic tool can program easily. Drive on / drive off ramp time for wheel off, tyre off, fit new sensor, refit and program is about 45 mins per corner.
an added piece of confusion is that since the demise of smartire, new smartire (older level sensors) are now also made by beru, so careful checking of sensor spec is required if not buying directly from factory where packaging is clearly labbled.
the smartire brain can be disconnected from harness and will turn off system and not put tpms light on dash, the beru system can not be disconnected, if disconnected tpms error light on the dash will illuminate until box is reconnected and defective sensor replaced.
the newer beru system is plug and play so no bother, even with factory diagnostic tool the connectivity and programing of smartire is..... Tireing....
the older lever smartire sensor is not compatible with beru system or visa versa, and the smartire system needs a diagnostic tool to manually program sensor serial number to brain.
there might be a third party device which can program smartire brain without the need of factory diagnostic tool, but any good indi or dealer that has factory diagnostic tool can program easily. Drive on / drive off ramp time for wheel off, tyre off, fit new sensor, refit and program is about 45 mins per corner.
an added piece of confusion is that since the demise of smartire, new smartire (older level sensors) are now also made by beru, so careful checking of sensor spec is required if not buying directly from factory where packaging is clearly labbled.
the smartire brain can be disconnected from harness and will turn off system and not put tpms light on dash, the beru system can not be disconnected, if disconnected tpms error light on the dash will illuminate until box is reconnected and defective sensor replaced.
the newer beru system is plug and play so no bother, even with factory diagnostic tool the connectivity and programing of smartire is..... Tireing....
Mike Thank you for your helpful comments...I have a MY2011 DB9 which have the more current version of tyre sensors , I have in a number of wheels which are older but I do not know what the sensors are in the older wheels, my guess is the older wheels have maybe the smarttire sensors.Although I do not think the wheels are more five years old.
I was hoping to reset the sensors but it maybe better to change the sensors to the later Beru 433 mhz versions.
I was hoping to reset the sensors but it maybe better to change the sensors to the later Beru 433 mhz versions.
Edited by pilgrim7777 on Sunday 1st June 12:50
Edited by pilgrim7777 on Sunday 1st June 12:55
Hi All
I have a Porsche Cayman S Reg Sept 2006, MY2007 according to the dealer.
The other day my rear right sensor stopped working and was displaying -- on the instrument display, I tried to re learn the system by alternating between summer and winter tyres in the menu. After a few attempts all the other sensors stopped sending and I got -- displayed for all wheels with the yellow flat tyre symbol and the red !, with message "TPMS inactive" and I couldn't get it to relearn again no matter what I did. They lasted 8 years and 2 months.
I rang up the dealership and they said it would cost me £120+VAT each for the sensors and 3 hours labour to reset them, but they will do a discount and only charge me £220 for resetting and installing them. so I was looking at a bill of £796.
When I asked if the car needed to be reprogrammed by their PWIS system they said yes and if I purchased any after market TPMS they would not work as the car needed to be programmed by them with the new ID's.
I started to Google around and eventfully found a place in Blackburn who offered after market TPMS at £69 inc VAT and delivery each. They reassured me that my car will relearn despite what the stealer was telling me. All they needed from me was the make, model and year of the car, they would then programme their new sensor for my car and were confident that it will work, thay also said if it didn't work they could programme the ID's from my old sensors but again they were very confident that it would not be required. So after a bit of thought I decided to go down there and buy 8 x sensors 4 for my summer tyres and 4 for my winter tyres which are on route from Germany that I purchased from Ebay. I also looked at some American site that were offering sensors for my car at around £35 each, I decided against buying from America as if they didn't work I would have a big headache of sending them back. Also the American one don't have the CE kite mark on them, which I was told is needed for Europe. The place where I purchased by sensors programmed theirs for my Model and year of the car while I waited, tested then and handed over. Oh and they offered a small discount for buying 8 sensors and picking them up.
Next day I went down to my local tyre place and they broke the tyre bead and pushed the tyre back at the position where the sensors are located, I then took the sensor off using 11mm spanner and replaced them one by one. I borrowed a torque wrench as the sensors need to be torqued at 4nm for the valve to rim and 2.2nm for valve stem to sensor, other models may be different torque settings. Two sensors were easy to take off the rim, but on two sensors I had to cut the stem off after removing the sensor from the stem, the stem metals must have reacted and welded together, it was just spinning around the rubber seals and the rim. I don't think anyone ever replaced the stem valves, your supposed to replace the stem valve every time you change the tyres.
The tyre place charged me £20 for the job, and within an 1.5 hours I was away with new sensors installed, 1 mile down the road all the lights went off and the car was now happy displaying the current pressure in all wheels.
Total cost of job approx. £550 for 8 sensors, Stealer wanted £800 for 4 sensors.
I think it would have taken about 30 minutes to do the job, but took longer as it was the first time the tyre place had done this and two stems had reacted within the threads.
The original sensors were Beru and the replacement ones are I sensors, I'm told they have the same batteries and chip as the original and should last 8 to 10 years, lets see what happens.
Moral of the story is don't always believe what the stealership tells you, and no special tool needed to reset my car.
I have a Porsche Cayman S Reg Sept 2006, MY2007 according to the dealer.
The other day my rear right sensor stopped working and was displaying -- on the instrument display, I tried to re learn the system by alternating between summer and winter tyres in the menu. After a few attempts all the other sensors stopped sending and I got -- displayed for all wheels with the yellow flat tyre symbol and the red !, with message "TPMS inactive" and I couldn't get it to relearn again no matter what I did. They lasted 8 years and 2 months.
I rang up the dealership and they said it would cost me £120+VAT each for the sensors and 3 hours labour to reset them, but they will do a discount and only charge me £220 for resetting and installing them. so I was looking at a bill of £796.
When I asked if the car needed to be reprogrammed by their PWIS system they said yes and if I purchased any after market TPMS they would not work as the car needed to be programmed by them with the new ID's.
I started to Google around and eventfully found a place in Blackburn who offered after market TPMS at £69 inc VAT and delivery each. They reassured me that my car will relearn despite what the stealer was telling me. All they needed from me was the make, model and year of the car, they would then programme their new sensor for my car and were confident that it will work, thay also said if it didn't work they could programme the ID's from my old sensors but again they were very confident that it would not be required. So after a bit of thought I decided to go down there and buy 8 x sensors 4 for my summer tyres and 4 for my winter tyres which are on route from Germany that I purchased from Ebay. I also looked at some American site that were offering sensors for my car at around £35 each, I decided against buying from America as if they didn't work I would have a big headache of sending them back. Also the American one don't have the CE kite mark on them, which I was told is needed for Europe. The place where I purchased by sensors programmed theirs for my Model and year of the car while I waited, tested then and handed over. Oh and they offered a small discount for buying 8 sensors and picking them up.
Next day I went down to my local tyre place and they broke the tyre bead and pushed the tyre back at the position where the sensors are located, I then took the sensor off using 11mm spanner and replaced them one by one. I borrowed a torque wrench as the sensors need to be torqued at 4nm for the valve to rim and 2.2nm for valve stem to sensor, other models may be different torque settings. Two sensors were easy to take off the rim, but on two sensors I had to cut the stem off after removing the sensor from the stem, the stem metals must have reacted and welded together, it was just spinning around the rubber seals and the rim. I don't think anyone ever replaced the stem valves, your supposed to replace the stem valve every time you change the tyres.
The tyre place charged me £20 for the job, and within an 1.5 hours I was away with new sensors installed, 1 mile down the road all the lights went off and the car was now happy displaying the current pressure in all wheels.
Total cost of job approx. £550 for 8 sensors, Stealer wanted £800 for 4 sensors.
I think it would have taken about 30 minutes to do the job, but took longer as it was the first time the tyre place had done this and two stems had reacted within the threads.
The original sensors were Beru and the replacement ones are I sensors, I'm told they have the same batteries and chip as the original and should last 8 to 10 years, lets see what happens.
Moral of the story is don't always believe what the stealership tells you, and no special tool needed to reset my car.
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