Why are Ford always changing the Ford Focus shape?
Why are Ford always changing the Ford Focus shape?
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Gandahar

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9,600 posts

157 months

Sunday 1st June 2014
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It's a great car no doubt but Ford continually seem to meddle with it. I think I know my cars but I realised today that I could not tell you what the latest one looked like compared to the one they released just before Easter. Does it still have that horrible rear light, the Aston Martin front grill, new shaped carbon plastic side nolders ?

What? You don't know what a side nolder is? Go drive a new Focus, they will surely have added them by now.

This was all brought to light when I went to the wife's mother in laws 2nd bastid brother's caravan for the weekend. The chap next to us brought his 10 year old Focus. I'd not seen one for a while so surreptitiously took a photo. Doesn't it still look fresh and spritely?





The back of the car is even better but I resisted snooping around to get a photo in case they thought I was some sort of weirdo and was hunted down with pitchforks.

It all just gels so well. So why do Ford keep wanting to change it and make it worse. Look at the front grill, it's not in your face like the modern way which is all in your face.

Driving an earlier Focus is a delight as well. Zesty Yamaha 1.6 and the steering, brakes, clutch and gearbox all work as a harmonious whole. Now it seems, from Dan's piece, the steering is going to be modernised also, just like the graphics. I guess it keeps them all in a job.

Perhaps it is just the rose tinted glasses coming out for the past again.



Passeyfier

287 posts

158 months

Sunday 1st June 2014
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The original Focus is by far the best looking version IMO. I guess the latest one has been built with a global market in mind but I agree, it does seem Ford likes to tweak things here and there without going for an all-out facelift.

TheEnd

15,370 posts

217 months

Sunday 1st June 2014
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As with most things, the "new" one is going to be the one that people want, so they'll keep on making new ones.

StuntmanMike

15,024 posts

180 months

Sunday 1st June 2014
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I had one for seven years, apart from servicing it ran fault free, the logical progression was a MK2, but that felt more like a Golf, or some other heavy dull hatch, I agree the design looks fresh and hasn't been bettered.

sparks_E39

12,738 posts

242 months

Sunday 1st June 2014
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I see loads of MK1's all the time. Great car's, they look great for 16 or so year's old.

Matthen

1,451 posts

180 months

Sunday 1st June 2014
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I disagree, In my opinion the MK1 is well aged now, much prefer the MK2 to either the face lifted mk2 or the later models though.

Although I drive an mk2. Maybe i'm biased.

m444ttb

3,183 posts

258 months

Sunday 1st June 2014
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I like the mk2 shape until I see a non-sporty model anywhere near a mk1. Then it looks like the Focus that ate all the pies!

Baryonyx

18,280 posts

188 months

Sunday 1st June 2014
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The second time today I'm reminiscing about my old Focus! I had an 'Ebony' model, the last special edition Focus Ford UK did before the second generation arrived. Standard spec was full leather interior, heated front seats and front screen, Alpine stereo, polished exhaust tip, rear tints and parking sensors. Not a bad spec for the car; the seats were fantastic and the stereo was great.

Moreso than the spec, the drive was fantastic. Great handling and lovely weight to the controls, and a reasonably responsive engine. It wasn't 'quick', but it didn't have the rubbery, slow throttle response and awful rev-hang that spoils so many cars these days.


JulianHJ

8,868 posts

291 months

Sunday 1st June 2014
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Mk2 driver here. I've had mine for seven years, and I really don't like the Mk3 shape - It looks like a Kia or Hyundai. I definitely wouldn't buy one. I thought the Mk1 shape was good at the time, but much prefer the Mk2. I am not that fussed by the Mk2.5 either way. Overall the shape is slightly better, but the headlight design is off-putting.

rehab71

3,362 posts

219 months

Sunday 1st June 2014
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Most Fords get a MCA (mid cycle action), facelift to you and me. It's done to keep the range fresh and to get people changing their 'old shape' car for a new one.

Mercury00

4,249 posts

185 months

Sunday 1st June 2014
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I can see elements of the mk1 in both the mk2 and mk3 (which I own). At some angles they're a similar shape.

750turbo

6,164 posts

253 months

Sunday 1st June 2014
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Not just Ford though, all Manufacturers are at it.

Years ago, Datsun (I know, I know!) had a 4 year life cycle for each model, with a facelift 1/2 way through this.

Made my life fun working in the Parts Dept!

Fattyfat

3,310 posts

225 months

Sunday 1st June 2014
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I like the Focus. Haven't owned one yet but I have a lot of time for them and have driven quite a few (hire cars, owned by friends etc).

The MK1, in my mind was a quantum leap for Ford. Looked like nothing else on the market and was a real peach to drive. Made the previous Escort and it's rivals look slightly staid. As said it still looks pretty sharp for being a 16 year old design now.

I looked at buying a 1.0 Ecoboost late last year, impressive little car but wasn't leagues ahead of a comparably priced Astra. To be fair the current shape Focus could easily sport a Hyundai badge and I don't think anyone would notice. In fact I don't think I've seen that many on the road, or I just haven't noticed. I'd still buy one though and probably will at some point.

In my mind I think Ford is a little unnoticed these days, roads seem to be awash with prestige German fodder. Why?

anonymous-user

83 months

Sunday 1st June 2014
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The MK1 interior was bloody awful in my opinion, specifically the dashboard.

I saw a 55 reg (MK2?) the other day, wheelarches rusting like buggery. I was surprised to see that.

The MK1 was a trailblazer in the styling department though, now they seem to be just one of many amongst the Korean and Japanese rivals. Perhaps one of the reasons that German stuff seems favoured is that they have kept to less faddy designs, a bit boring on the whole and playing safe, but they age better. That said VAG cars are morphing into a homogenised shape now, Seats, Skodas, VWs and Audis.

Fattyfat

3,310 posts

225 months

Sunday 1st June 2014
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anonymous said:
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Just like a Golf of similar vintage then.

Triumph Man

9,579 posts

197 months

Sunday 1st June 2014
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Gandahar said:
It's a great car no doubt but Ford continually seem to meddle with it. I think I know my cars but I realised today that I could not tell you what the latest one looked like compared to the one they released just before Easter. Does it still have that horrible rear light, the Aston Martin front grill, new shaped carbon plastic side nolders ?

What? You don't know what a side nolder is? Go drive a new Focus, they will surely have added them by now.

This was all brought to light when I went to the wife's mother in laws 2nd bastid brother's caravan for the weekend. The chap next to us brought his 10 year old Focus. I'd not seen one for a while so surreptitiously took a photo. Doesn't it still look fresh and spritely?





The back of the car is even better but I resisted snooping around to get a photo in case they thought I was some sort of weirdo and was hunted down with pitchforks.

It all just gels so well. So why do Ford keep wanting to change it and make it worse. Look at the front grill, it's not in your face like the modern way which is all in your face.

Driving an earlier Focus is a delight as well. Zesty Yamaha 1.6 and the steering, brakes, clutch and gearbox all work as a harmonious whole. Now it seems, from Dan's piece, the steering is going to be modernised also, just like the graphics. I guess it keeps them all in a job.

Perhaps it is just the rose tinted glasses coming out for the past again.
That is exactly the same as my mother's old Focus, in fact if you look at the black plastic "chin spoiler" you can see a slight dent where it has been pushed in slightly (RHS). Did the reg start HF04?

ETA: meant to add I agree with you. IMO the MK1 facelift in ghia spec (colour coding) was the best looking. The pre facelift looks a bit tired to me...

Edited by Triumph Man on Sunday 1st June 19:46

colin_p

4,503 posts

241 months

Sunday 1st June 2014
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I'm still living the dream and run a 15 year old example as a daily (along side a VW 1.9 TDI)

I cannot think of anything I'd want to replace it with. I've sorted the rust(for now) as well. I love it and think they aged very well. It is a shame they will rot away without intervention.




ajf

428 posts

235 months

Sunday 1st June 2014
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Always wondered what MCA ment on vista everyday is a school day

Jonny_

4,704 posts

236 months

Sunday 1st June 2014
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I think the changes between successive versions have been too much. I had a Mk2 a while ago and whilst not in any way a bad looking car, it just seemed a little anonymous alongside my mate's Mk1. Perhaps because the shape was markedly different to the Mk1 but not massively dissimilar to other hatches on the market. Current car is actually duller to look at than the current Astra, much as it pains me to admit that!

I do agree with the comments about the Mk1 interior though; in their effort to make it "radical" Ford made it a bit tacky. Mk2 had a much nicer interior, not in any way exciting but it felt well made and reasonably classy.

MikeOxlong

3,114 posts

218 months

Sunday 1st June 2014
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I think the mk1 RS looks really good.