Employer allowance - NI
Employer allowance - NI
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PurpleMoonlight

Original Poster:

22,362 posts

188 months

Monday 2nd June 2014
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I am able to claim this.

I have ticked the relevant box on my payroll program and submitted my Full Payment Submissions as normal.

I have looked online to see what I am due to pay and it still shows employer NI as being due. Is this correct?

I understook that nothing was due until the £2000 had all been used up.

Eric Mc

125,916 posts

296 months

Monday 2nd June 2014
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Are you sure that you have ticked the appropriate boxes?

Have you checked with your software supplier that the software you are using is fully up to date?

Don't forget, there will still be Employee's NI payable in most circumstances.

hunton69

674 posts

168 months

Monday 2nd June 2014
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PurpleMoonlight said:
I am able to claim this.

I have ticked the relevant box on my payroll program and submitted my Full Payment Submissions as normal.

I have looked online to see what I am due to pay and it still shows employer NI as being due. Is this correct?

I understook that nothing was due until the £2000 had all been used up.
If your talking about the £2000 allowance its only a small percentage of the total NI you pay towards your employees.
You have to have a payrole bill of about 200 grand to get the full allowance

PurpleMoonlight

Original Poster:

22,362 posts

188 months

Monday 2nd June 2014
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Definately ticked the 'Employer Allowance' box and it comes up with £2000 allowance.

I guess I may have to call them though.

PurpleMoonlight

Original Poster:

22,362 posts

188 months

Monday 2nd June 2014
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hunton69 said:
If your talking about the £2000 allowance its only a small percentage of the total NI you pay towards your employees.
You have to have a payrole bill of about 200 grand to get the full allowance
Don't follow that.

I understook that any employer NI payable is offset against the allowance until it has all been used up. My employer NI for the whole year is going to be about £2500 so I should have a net payment of £500 to make.

Devilstreak

8,088 posts

212 months

Monday 2nd June 2014
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PurpleMoonlight said:
Don't follow that.

I understook that any employer NI payable is offset against the allowance until it has all been used up. My employer NI for the whole year is going to be about £2500 so I should have a net payment of £500 to make.
Correct

PurpleMoonlight

Original Poster:

22,362 posts

188 months

Monday 2nd June 2014
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I had expected the payroll program and what it reports as RTI to allow for this, but it doesn't seem to. At least the way I have done it so far it doesn't. My HMRC record shows employer NI as being due for the current quarter.

Has anyone filed any RTI submissions claiming the allowance yet?

What does your HMRC payment record show?

sumo69

2,164 posts

251 months

Monday 2nd June 2014
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Quickbooks requires submission of 1 EPS to activate this - the FPS return doesn't do the job.

May be worth checking your software to see if the activation is showing on the EPS.

David

mr.man

511 posts

247 months

Monday 2nd June 2014
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I am running the Moneysoft payroll package.
Previously I was paying around £1000 per month to HMR&C
(employees Tax and NI and Employers NI.
I am now paying about £200 less each month as per the payroll
instructions. After I have paid £2000 less I am expecting
to pay the employers full amount for the last two months.

PurpleMoonlight

Original Poster:

22,362 posts

188 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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sumo69 said:
Quickbooks requires submission of 1 EPS to activate this - the FPS return doesn't do the job.

May be worth checking your software to see if the activation is showing on the EPS.

David
It appears that this is correct.

HMRC have apparently decided that it has to be activated via an EPS and not FPS.

No prises for guessing why they did that!