Is that V12 finally bullet proof?
Is that V12 finally bullet proof?
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Christian51

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22 posts

149 months

Monday 2nd June 2014
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzmL2rl1j8Q&fe...

I have a friend looking at 2006 and newer DB9s and sent me this video. I'm in the market for a new 2014 so I would be curious if any of you long time Aston drives could comment in this the V12 issue. Hated seeing this video of a blown engine with 9 thousand miles being caused by a design issue.

mikey k

13,074 posts

246 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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That old nugget hehe
IIRC that was the only V12 that ever failed from oil starvation to the rear two cylinders
ALL the engines are test run in Cologne, if it was oil starvation it would fail in the first few hours
I think the consensus was it was run low on oil hence there was never a warranty claim on it

Olivera

8,792 posts

269 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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Quite astonishing, particularly what is said at 19 minutes!

Christian51

Original Poster:

22 posts

149 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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What struck me was the build up on the other piston heads. Maybe it looked worse than it was but they were quite black but he said they were fine. My question is are they now using the highest quality parts after hearing about the Chinese parts in them. Is there any Aston's out there that have a hundred or a hundred fifty thousand miles on them? He says these are race engines and not made for high millage but that is shouldn't break down that soon. Hey, I wanted to drive mine every day and not care about the millage.

tonyhall38

4,194 posts

246 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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Drive mine most days....am up to 48 k miles....no issues at all...regular servicing helps....

Neil1300r

5,771 posts

208 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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Not that old video! Take it to a non Aston mechanic who makes wild claims about the engine to justify the owner forgetting to check and add oil.
Lots of V12's out there with high mileage.
Its a race engine? rofl
The only person claiming to have major issues with a V12 was Maverick who appeared to just want to take his engine apart to find out how 4 stroke engines worked - well you would obviously choose a V12 as your first full engine strip down wink
Chinese parts? You do know the Chinese can manufacture high quality parts don't you?

BravoV8V

1,858 posts

204 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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The only thing of substance that I learnt from that vid is that Barry Hunnings is bit of a clown. jester

mikey k

13,074 posts

246 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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Christian51 said:
What struck me was the build up on the other piston heads. Maybe it looked worse than it was but they were quite black but he said they were fine. My question is are they now using the highest quality parts after hearing about the Chinese parts in them. Is there any Aston's out there that have a hundred or a hundred fifty thousand miles on them? He says these are race engines and not made for high millage but that is shouldn't break down that soon. Hey, I wanted to drive mine every day and not care about the millage.
The oil is obviously in poor condition and has overheated increasing viscosity (probable cause of oil starvation)
The parts are well proven and well tested by Ford's durability schemes
There's too much BS and assumptions in his descriptions for me to believe his claims
They are NOT racing engines, those that went to Prodrive will tell you the racing engines are completely reworked (with similar components to those shown at the end) race engines also require regular rebuilds, the cost of that is enormous!

Don't worry about this BS and get on with driving it wink

northernmedia

1,988 posts

168 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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Anyone read the article about the 81k mile DBS in this months Vantage magazine?
Apart from a couple of clutches and swapping the discs for steels its been very reliable.
(6th gear experience car so used hard no doubt too!)

JBaps

214 posts

155 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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Looks like a video put together by an engineering company trying to drum up customers by worrying people.

Reality is that, per piston, AM engines are stressed to a similar degree to somewhat average saloon cars, basically there's no need for exotic engine parts in an under stressed V12 engine. Obviously we could argue about minimising moving mass to aid responsiveness, but that's a separate discussion.