Lest we forget......
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My farther passed away when I was 19, he fought in this, told me many times of the battle. Would give up everything in blink, just to be able to say just one last good by to him
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Monte_Cassi...
APOLO1 said:
My farther passed away when I was 19, he fought in this, told me many times of the battle. Would give up everything in blink, just to be able to say just one last good by to him
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Monte_Cassi...
From that link, am I correct reading that the Italians were fighting themselves (Royalists and the Social Republic)?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Monte_Cassi...
Everyday is indeed a school day.
A professional army is one thing, but for 'ordinary' men to do that is humbling and incredible.
Lest we forget...
My father was in the RAF, and played his small part in that day.
In WW1 my grandfather lied about his age, joined-up and was 16 at the Battle of the Somme.
RIP all, incredible men, unbelievable times.
Lest we forget...
My father was in the RAF, and played his small part in that day.
In WW1 my grandfather lied about his age, joined-up and was 16 at the Battle of the Somme.
RIP all, incredible men, unbelievable times.
Zyp said:
APOLO1 said:
My farther passed away when I was 19, he fought in this, told me many times of the battle. Would give up everything in blink, just to be able to say just one last good by to him
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Monte_Cassi...
From that link, am I correct reading that the Italians were fighting themselves (Royalists and the Social Republic)?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Monte_Cassi...
Everyday is indeed a school day.
Here's last year's pic on the road leading to the hilltop abbey.
It's quite a reasonable drivers road albeit full of tight hairpins.
Cassino itself is nothing to write home about.
The books about this battle generally make for very interesting reading.
Orangecurry said:
A professional army is one thing, but for 'ordinary' men to do that is humbling and incredible.
A salient point, one often forgotten when honouring the fallen of WW1&2.Most were boys. Imagine yourself at 19. Chasing the girls around, Carlos Fandango wheels on your Escort, saving up your cash for a new mod jacket.
Then imagine 6 months later and you're holding a badly maintained rifle and being ushered towards death.
We just can't understand really.
APOLO1 said:
My farther passed away when I was 19, he fought in this, told me many times of the battle. Would give up everything in blink, just to be able to say just one last good by to him
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Monte_Cassi...
Putting aside the comments on the other thread, my grandfather was a tank driver in a Sherman tank and fought in the battle for Monte Cassinohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Monte_Cassi...
as well, my other grandfather was on the d day landings, both survived and lived untill their 70's.
Lest we foget those less fortunate.
Good thread - makes argumanets about the PDK geared GT3's seem pretty meaningless........
My Gran worked on Lancaster Bombers - even now she gets really upset at how many lads got in them and never made it home. She also struggles with the knowledge of what happened 'over there' when the bomber did what they were built for....
Difficult to believe all this happened in the lifetime of our relatives
My Gran worked on Lancaster Bombers - even now she gets really upset at how many lads got in them and never made it home. She also struggles with the knowledge of what happened 'over there' when the bomber did what they were built for....
Difficult to believe all this happened in the lifetime of our relatives
Shep911 said:
Good thread - makes argumanets about the PDK geared GT3's seem pretty meaningless........
My Gran worked on Lancaster Bombers - even now she gets really upset at how many lads got in them and never made it home. She also struggles with the knowledge of what happened 'over there' when the bomber did what they were built for....
Difficult to believe all this happened in the lifetime of our relatives
Perhaps more difficult to believe (or unwilling to think about) the fact that people and children are dying as we speak in just as horrific conditions in some conflict or other somewhere in the world. My Gran worked on Lancaster Bombers - even now she gets really upset at how many lads got in them and never made it home. She also struggles with the knowledge of what happened 'over there' when the bomber did what they were built for....
Difficult to believe all this happened in the lifetime of our relatives
In no means belittling any of the horrors of the WWs, just pointing out that the human animal is highly flawed on so many levels now as then.
My great-uncle's memorial in a one-horse town in Northern France - he was killed as a rear gunner in a Lanc. Tragically my investigation into the crash revealed it was probably American ground fire that brought them down - on a training flight. All crew, and the additional LORAN operative were lost.
Drove out to this, near Reims, last year in my Cayman. Wonderful trip and incredibly emotional moment standing there, as I'm the only member of the family who has ever been.
My paternal grand-father stayed in Paris during the Dunkirk evacuation, but got away further South and spent the rest of the war teaching other soldiers to use teleprint machines.
My maternal grand-father was too old to see regular service, but was most likely conscripted into a Volksturm unit, and would have tried to stop the American advance in 1944 - my mother is from Gelsenkirchen.
Just think, if we'd lost the war we might all be driving Porsches today 
This time last year I was out there at the beaches following on from a 10-day rood trip around Spain, and managed to capture this image as I was stood just outside Sword:
Spitfire, during a flyover shortly after hearing the national anthems of the French and British. Proper spine tingling stuff.
Everyone who was there, everyone who was involved in any way during those times, all heroes.
This time last year I was out there at the beaches following on from a 10-day rood trip around Spain, and managed to capture this image as I was stood just outside Sword:
Spitfire, during a flyover shortly after hearing the national anthems of the French and British. Proper spine tingling stuff.
Everyone who was there, everyone who was involved in any way during those times, all heroes.
No he died when mum was a child (she was born post-war, just), but I have no records and merely the testimony of my two aunties that he fought, towards the end, and so I've filled in the gaps on that basis. It may be totally wide of the mark - finding details on German families is difficult in the extreme in my experience. Language barrier plus distance plus lots of records being destroyed or lost and now the whole family, bar my Mum, are dead, so I can't ask any other questions.
On a separate note what did Porsche make during the war - suspension wasn't it?
On a separate note what did Porsche make during the war - suspension wasn't it?
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