Torque app on VXR8, oil temperature

[pah250]

Has anyone using the Torque app with an ELM327 Bluetooth OBDII interface successfully managed to read the engine oil temperature?

I'm guessing I need to setup a custom PID but having no joy finding the details via Google.

Cheers

[BigbadVXR]

Have a look here.
There seems to be quite a few people after the same info.
Just type oil temp in the search box.

[pah250]

Nice one. I'll search that forum tonight when I get in front of a computer. Didn't realise they had their own forum.

[StefanVXR8]

Dash Command doesn't oil temp either.

Stef

[stigmundfreud]

don't most cars actually estimate the oil temp based on several other feeds such as ECT?

[pah250]

stigmundfreud said:

don't most cars actually estimate the oil temp based on several other feeds such as ECT?

There is an oil temp gauge in the centre cluster above the radio, so it must have an oil temp sensor somewhere. Also, when I've pushed it on a track I've had an 'Oil Temp Too Hot' warning come up on the LCD centre console, so I'm guessing the computer must be able to read the oil temp sensor too.

[mikeyb1987]

I think I read somewhere that the oil temp is estimated, based on oil pressure. I could be wrong though

[stigmundfreud]

pah250 said:

stigmundfreud said:

don't most cars actually estimate the oil temp based on several other feeds such as ECT?

There is an oil temp gauge in the centre cluster above the radio, so it must have an oil temp sensor somewhere. Also, when I've pushed it on a track I've had an 'Oil Temp Too Hot' warning come up on the LCD centre console, so I'm guessing the computer must be able to read the oil temp sensor too.

I have one too, and its an estimated figure based on other inputs, I suppose as ECT and pressure = temp in a more reliable (as in service life) than an actual temp sender

[stigmundfreud]

mikeyb1987 said:

I think I read somewhere that the oil temp is estimated, based on oil pressure. I could be wrong though

Hopefully Rich might pick up if I say "EFI LIVE" but as I no longer have a copy it would be easy to check if its a PID or a calculated PID but most modern cars estimate oil temp

[pah250]

stigmundfreud said:

mikeyb1987 said:

I think I read somewhere that the oil temp is estimated, based on oil pressure. I could be wrong though

Hopefully Rich might pick up if I say "EFI LIVE" but as I no longer have a copy it would be easy to check if its a PID or a calculated PID but most modern cars estimate oil temp

After some reading up I think Mikey may be correct. Worse still, I bet that the estimated figure is not so accurate if the engine is modded/SC'd and being pushed on a track day for example.

[stigmundfreud]

temp calculation wont change based on other factors it will still be based on various inputs which will remain constant.

[H5V VE]

Hi

On a slightly related topic

I currently have Dash Command on my phone, and it is very keen for me to buy the "GM Extended Parameters" for various years.

Anyone got any idea what you actually get for the money because it seems to work quite happily without them.

[stigmundfreud]

ask yourself this, and you already have

does the app do what you want it to? Yes
will the upgrade give you stuff you need? Probably not

what do you think is missing that you might benefit from?

[H5V VE]

I am just curious as to what it actually gives you. As we all know, there are many things that we didnt even know we wanted - until we find out about them :-)

Looking at their forums, it looks as if this may well be the way to get an enhanced PID for engine oil temperature for example.

[pah250]

H5V VE said:

Looking at their forums, it looks as if this may well be the way to get an enhanced PID for engine oil temperature for example.

Yes, from the reading-up I have done the engine oil temp is part of an extended set of GM PIDs for the OBDII port. As such I would expect you would be able to read this if you purchased the pack. However it is an estimated engine oil temp rather than an actual temp...

[SturdyHSV]

In Torque there's the extended GM PIDs, works fine and I have engine oil temp on my Torque (in a Monaro admittedly...)

Torque > Settings (press the menu button on your phone if you have one) then there's a 'Manage extra PIDs/Sensors' option

Tap the little menu button again, and choose 'Add predefined set' which contains 'Pontiac/GM/Opel/Vauxhall'

[pah250]

SturdyHSV said:

In Torque there's the extended GM PIDs, works fine and I have engine oil temp on my Torque (in a Monaro admittedly...)

Torque > Settings (press the menu button on your phone if you have one) then there's a 'Manage extra PIDs/Sensors' option

Tap the little menu button again, and choose 'Add predefined set' which contains 'Pontiac/GM/Opel/Vauxhall'

James you top man - just what I was looking for. Looks like they were under my nose all along - doh!

Will try them tonight.

Cheers!!

[kaw]

I had a engine oil cooler kit fitted to mine with a 90 deg stat fitted ,before the kit oil temp was 115,120 deg ,on the gauge,after kit it,s 100,105 deg ,s don,t know if that helps any but would appear the gauge is 15 deg,s out

[SturdyHSV]

pah250 said:

James you top man - just what I was looking for. Looks like they were under my nose all along - doh!

Will try them tonight.

Cheers!!

Glad I could help. Torque can also log this stuff too if you want to keep an eye on it, and can trigger alarms if it goes above a level you're not happy with.

Screenshot to show I'm not crazy

[stigmundfreud]

kaw said:

I had a engine oil cooler kit fitted to mine with a 90 deg stat fitted ,before the kit oil temp was 115,120 deg ,on the gauge,after kit it,s 100,105 deg ,s don,t know if that helps any but would appear the gauge is 15 deg,s out

or it could be a calculated pid?