F*** you car manufacturers with your §/"&$%" "S"-Version
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Why dont you get it right from the beginning?
Build the entry level car with this peeny-weeny additional 35PS, lower the suspension 15-20mm, stiffen the dampers a bit, put in the smaller diameter steering wheel and the leather gear shifter. And make all this part of the standard spec. Instead of screwing buyers for a 3000-5000 extra cash to get a car in a spec in which it should have been from day one.
911S, Vantage S and so on. These are sports cars anyway to make them sporty because that is what they are supposed to be.
Side effect: Car forums would save lots of storage space on their servers because all the "Make sure you get the "S" version with handles better and has more power" comments would be nonexistant.
Build the entry level car with this peeny-weeny additional 35PS, lower the suspension 15-20mm, stiffen the dampers a bit, put in the smaller diameter steering wheel and the leather gear shifter. And make all this part of the standard spec. Instead of screwing buyers for a 3000-5000 extra cash to get a car in a spec in which it should have been from day one.
911S, Vantage S and so on. These are sports cars anyway to make them sporty because that is what they are supposed to be.
Side effect: Car forums would save lots of storage space on their servers because all the "Make sure you get the "S" version with handles better and has more power" comments would be nonexistant.
Charvet said:
Why dont you get it right from the beginning?
Build the entry level car with this peeny-weeny additional 35PS, lower the suspension 15-20mm, stiffen the dampers a bit, put in the smaller diameter steering wheel and the leather gear shifter. And make all this part of the standard spec. Instead of screwing buyers for a 3000-5000 extra cash to get a car in a spec in which it should have been from day one.
911S, Vantage S and so on. These are sports cars anyway to make them sporty because that is what they are supposed to be.
Side effect: Car forums would save lots of storage space on their servers because all the "Make sure you get the "S" version with handles better and has more power" comments would be nonexistant.
<translation> boo hoo hoo, too many choices.Build the entry level car with this peeny-weeny additional 35PS, lower the suspension 15-20mm, stiffen the dampers a bit, put in the smaller diameter steering wheel and the leather gear shifter. And make all this part of the standard spec. Instead of screwing buyers for a 3000-5000 extra cash to get a car in a spec in which it should have been from day one.
911S, Vantage S and so on. These are sports cars anyway to make them sporty because that is what they are supposed to be.
Side effect: Car forums would save lots of storage space on their servers because all the "Make sure you get the "S" version with handles better and has more power" comments would be nonexistant.
Man the f
k up.Development? If it is so predictable that customer want more power, stiffer suspension and "racing" tat in the interior, then simply slap it on from the beginning, Herr Doktor Ingenieur.
BTW we are talking sports cars here.
So, Porsche, when are you offering a down-tuned soft sprung "comfort" 911 version then? Surprise me.
BTW we are talking sports cars here.
So, Porsche, when are you offering a down-tuned soft sprung "comfort" 911 version then? Surprise me.
Charvet said:
Development? If it is so predictable that customer want more power, stiffer suspension and "racing" tat in the interior, then simply slap it on from the beginning, Herr Doktor Ingenieur.
BTW we are talking sports cars here.
So, Porsche, when are you offering a down-tuned soft sprung "comfort" 911 version then? Surprise me.
They do. It's the basic 911.BTW we are talking sports cars here.
So, Porsche, when are you offering a down-tuned soft sprung "comfort" 911 version then? Surprise me.
Not comfort spec per se, but accessible for most types of consumer.
There's a reason why a gt3 costs more...
It would help the people who actually build the car if they were all one spec.
Sadly customers are idiots who respond to marketing by paying more money. If they didn't the sales would go to the manufacturer who made the best base car, rather than the one with the most competent marketing department.
Sadly customers are idiots who respond to marketing by paying more money. If they didn't the sales would go to the manufacturer who made the best base car, rather than the one with the most competent marketing department.
Charvet said:
I "get" the GT3.
But I dont understand the sliiiiiiiiightly "better"/"improved" "S" version.
They have different engine capacities.But I dont understand the sliiiiiiiiightly "better"/"improved" "S" version.
Are you also complaining that Ford sell Mondeos with 1.6 and 2.0 engines? (Not to mention 1.0, 1.5, 1.6D and 2.0D engines.)
There aren't many non-supercars (including high-end sportscars) that don't have options of different capacity engines in the range.
Charvet said:
Why dont you get it right from the beginning?
Build the entry level car with this peeny-weeny additional 35PS, lower the suspension 15-20mm, stiffen the dampers a bit, put in the smaller diameter steering wheel and the leather gear shifter. And make all this part of the standard spec. Instead of screwing buyers for a 3000-5000 extra cash to get a car in a spec in which it should have been from day one.
911S, Vantage S and so on. These are sports cars anyway to make them sporty because that is what they are supposed to be.
Side effect: Car forums would save lots of storage space on their servers because all the "Make sure you get the "S" version with handles better and has more power" comments would be nonexistant.
I'm with you! And unlike some, I get that you only mean sports/supercars. Not Mondeos as some retard thinks above!Build the entry level car with this peeny-weeny additional 35PS, lower the suspension 15-20mm, stiffen the dampers a bit, put in the smaller diameter steering wheel and the leather gear shifter. And make all this part of the standard spec. Instead of screwing buyers for a 3000-5000 extra cash to get a car in a spec in which it should have been from day one.
911S, Vantage S and so on. These are sports cars anyway to make them sporty because that is what they are supposed to be.
Side effect: Car forums would save lots of storage space on their servers because all the "Make sure you get the "S" version with handles better and has more power" comments would be nonexistant.
"S" versions are generally the equivalent of fiddling with a car. Witness the "Type R" NSX with it's lightened gear gaitor. It's just to extend the shelf life of a car when REALLY they should be introducing a newer version.
And that's before we get to P1 and Flemkes issue that all of a sudden the "defiantly no more than 375" original cars will now potentially be joined by a "Track" version?!?!?
Magic! Good that you picked the "S"! Cheaper than speccing it from scratch!
Well, the GTS would have been better (+17.3 PS, +12.89% torque, 7mm lower, contrast stiching on handbrake lever).
Not to mention the GTS-R (fine-tuned for improved, wait, "handling", stiffer dampers with, well "improved" damping; Alcantara steering wheel with 8mm smaller diameter).
Oh, the GTS-RS (all of the aforementioned PLUS these 3 "limited edition" paint colours - wait: Nordscheife Blue, Sachsenring Yellow, Huschke von Hanstein Brown PLUS the revised front grille inserts, now black powder coat, unless the standard version was black powder coat, then it is chrome now)! Even better!
Did I mention the "Cup" version? LIMITED EDIIIIIITION!
Well, the GTS would have been better (+17.3 PS, +12.89% torque, 7mm lower, contrast stiching on handbrake lever).
Not to mention the GTS-R (fine-tuned for improved, wait, "handling", stiffer dampers with, well "improved" damping; Alcantara steering wheel with 8mm smaller diameter).
Oh, the GTS-RS (all of the aforementioned PLUS these 3 "limited edition" paint colours - wait: Nordscheife Blue, Sachsenring Yellow, Huschke von Hanstein Brown PLUS the revised front grille inserts, now black powder coat, unless the standard version was black powder coat, then it is chrome now)! Even better!
Did I mention the "Cup" version? LIMITED EDIIIIIITION!
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